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Onboard 3d Video Nightmare

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Name: Jake
Date: September 29, 2003 at 15:56:33 Pacific
OS: Win 98SE
CPU/Ram: 1.7 Celeron/ 224Mb
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I recently bought a custom job that has the ProSavage S3 DDR On Board Memory (32mb Shared). I also bought Grand Theft Auto III and Die Hard Nakitomi Plaza and they both run so slow that they are unplayable. I have downloaded the latest S3 drivers and both games were unplayable even on the lowest resolutions (640x800x16. And I more than meet the recommended requirements of both of these games. Anbody know what the problem is?



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Response Number 1
Name: Cool_Guy
Date: September 29, 2003 at 19:18:12 Pacific
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First of all never buy a celeron for gaming and secondly the integrated videocards are the worsest. They really bad. Now way u can play gta3 without good video card at least 32 meg agp.

good luck


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Response Number 2
Name: Insect
Date: September 29, 2003 at 19:29:17 Pacific
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ProSavage is the worst by far, even worse than Intel Extreme, and words can barly describe how bad Intel Extreme sucks.
There's your answer right there.
Get yourself a Radeon 9600. Best bang for yer buck right now, and is literally 20+ times faster than ProSavage DDR.


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Response Number 3
Name: SkipCox
Date: September 29, 2003 at 20:45:42 Pacific
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Insect is on it. Even a "good" onboard video chip lacks the stuff needed for serious gaming. They need to make 'em smaller and less powerful to keep heat to a manageable level.


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Response Number 4
Name: Jake
Date: September 30, 2003 at 05:57:22 Pacific
Reply:

Should have known... Anyway obviously I will have to get another video card. I don't want to spend over $75 and I will probably go the ebay route. Any suggestions?


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Response Number 5
Name: sqpantz
Date: September 30, 2003 at 15:47:54 Pacific
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Make sure your motherboard even has an agp slot before you start shopping for a new video card, and even if it does be prepared for conflict problems between the onboard chip & the new card. Take it from one who has been there, integrated graphics can be a pain in the a$$.


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Response Number 6
Name: Jake
Date: September 30, 2003 at 20:18:08 Pacific
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It has a 4x AGP slot. Why would there be conflict?


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Response Number 7
Name: sqpantz
Date: September 30, 2003 at 20:47:06 Pacific
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Just speaking from my experience. Maybe your luck will be better than mine. To be safe, get a video card from a store that will allow you to return it without a hassle, then if the new card works just as poorly as the integrated graphics (which was the case with mine) you can get your money back.



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Response Number 8
Name: Gary
Date: October 3, 2003 at 16:24:42 Pacific
Reply:

I think I am using the same Motherboard and same chipset with you. You are much much lucky than me as I even cant install the the display driver properly and now I can only run 16 colors mode.

Which version and driver u are using? Your motherboard is running in VIA chips right?

My problem~~
>http://www.computing.net/windowsme/wwwboard/forum/38904.html


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Response Number 9
Name: Bobthearch
Date: October 5, 2003 at 20:12:49 Pacific
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Inability to play modern games is the very definition of "onboard" or "integrated" graphics. You ~shouldn't~ have any trouble adding a card to the AGP slot, but...

Until you get a card, the solution is to run software suitable for your hardware. Check the bargain bins for titles a year or two old. You'll save a ton of money!

-Bob


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Response Number 10
Name: firefox
Date: October 6, 2003 at 03:23:57 Pacific
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get a radeon 9000 pro, its about 75 bucks
it has DFP ( digital flat panel) VGA (regular monitor) and an S-video.

it works great and you can run a dual monitor system pretty well.

the best part is that is comes with a DFP-VGA converter (worth $50) and an S-video-RCA (to apadt to older tvs, worth about $20)
almost pays for itself and i love its performance so far.


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