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new gaming pc

Original Message
Name: Robert Harrison
Date: August 3, 2006 at 08:15:50 Pacific
Subject: new gaming pc
OS: Windows XP
CPU/Ram: AMD 64/1GB
Model/Manufacturer: custom made
Comment:
Antec Sonata II Piano Black Quiet Mid Tower ATX Black 450 Watt Power Supply (ATX12V 2.01)
$119.50

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz Socket 939 512k L2 Cache (Retail Box)
$109.99

Corsair XMS TWINX Matched Pairs XMS3200 DDR400 2x512MB 184-pin DIMM (TWINX1024-3200XL)
$149.00

DFI Lanparty nF4 SLI-DR Socket 939 nForce4 SLI w/ Dual-Ch DDR400, Dual Gb LAN, PCI-Express (SLI), SATA 3Gb/s, Dual RAID, 8-Ch Audio, SPDIF, IEEE
$239.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 SATA NCQ 3.0Gb/s 200GB 8MB Cache (OEM)
$88.00

Leadtek WinFast PX6600 GT TDH GeForce 6600GT 128MB DDR3 PCI-Express w/ HDTV-Out, DVI
$169.00

LG DVD WRITER ~$40

Samsung SyncMaster 940BF Black 19" 2ms 700:1 DVI ~$300

Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers ~$70


KEYBOARD AND MOUSE ARE MISCALLENIOUS:)
~$20

TOTAL+TAX: $1490.24 Canadian

What do you think? If you have any suggestions for improvements/changes, please advise parts from www.canadacomputers.com
as that is where i will be buying everything from.

Thanks in advance,
Rob


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Response Number 1
Name: Sabertooth
Date: August 3, 2006 at 08:29:45 Pacific
Subject: new gaming pc
Reply: (edit)
Go with the 1MB L2 3700+ (San-Diego) instead of the 3500+

For the video card go with at least the 7600GT or 7900GT if you are a gamer.

A new rig this late in the game is better configured around the dual cores or you might as well look at a single core opteron from AMD paired with an nForce4 Ultra motherboard from DFI and some less expensive but equally good memory from say Kingston or even Corsair.

Overall it isn't too bad a list.


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Response Number 2
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: August 3, 2006 at 08:36:49 Pacific
Subject: new gaming pc
Reply: (edit)
"AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz Socket 939 512k L2 Cache (Retail Box)
$109.99"

Bad choice. Get the 3700 because it has 1M L2 cache. It shouldn't cost much more.

"Corsair XMS TWINX Matched Pairs XMS3200 DDR400 2x512MB 184-pin DIMM (TWINX1024-3200XL)
$149.00"

Way over priced RAM with some of the worst compatibility problems of any RAM available. Corsair value RAM is perfectly fine. Focus on your video card!

"Leadtek WinFast PX6600 GT TDH GeForce 6600GT 128MB DDR3 PCI-Express w/ HDTV-Out, DVI
$169.00"

Bad choice. Go with a 7600GT. Again, it shouldn't cost much more. The 6600GT is already falling behind cards that don't cost much more. In fact, I'd be shooting for a 7900GT!

"Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 SATA NCQ 3.0Gb/s 200GB 8MB Cache (OEM)
$88.00"

See if you can find the 16M cache perpendicular recording models. They're significantly faster.

"DFI Lanparty nF4 SLI-DR Socket 939 nForce4 SLI w/ Dual-Ch DDR400, Dual Gb LAN, PCI-Express (SLI), SATA 3Gb/s, Dual RAID, 8-Ch Audio, SPDIF, IEEE
$239.99"

This is a good motherboard, but that price even in canadian dollars seems way too high. And unless you're doing heavy overclocking, I'd get an Infinity series mobo instead. You honestly should be putting a lot more cash on the video card as is. No amount of overclocking of your CPU will make up for the fact that you have a 6600GT or 7600GT, which both still bottleneck even an Athlon 64 3500. Budget for the 7900GT first, THEN look to get LANParty mobo.

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Response Number 3
Name: Robert Harrison
Date: August 3, 2006 at 08:56:19 Pacific
Subject: new gaming pc
Reply: (edit)
There is only one problem. The 3700 is not sold at this retailer! And they are gonna build the system for me, so i need to buy all the parts from them!

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Response Number 4
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: August 3, 2006 at 09:05:33 Pacific
Subject: new gaming pc
Reply: (edit)
How's the pricing on the X2 3800? Not that the 3800 is gonna be faster than an Athlon 64 3500 in gaming now, but once games are optimized for dual core, it will have a major advantage.

The best AMD proc to get would be the X2 4400, as it has 1M cache per core.

Other possibilities...

Opteron 165 (dual core 1M cache per core)
Opeteron 144 (single core 1M cache)

Also, you do realize it's very easy to build it yourself, right? www.ncix.com Take a look what you could build yourself for what this place is charging you.

Please help survivors of Hurricane Katrina!

www.redcross.org


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Response Number 5
Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 5, 2006 at 18:16:58 Pacific
Subject: new gaming pc
Reply: (edit)
the X2 4400+ is the best deal for dual core you could overclcok it to a FX-60 with the right settings and a good cooling system.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ OC 2.7ghz
2GB Dual Channel DDR 3200
Nvidia 7900GT
SATA II 2x 200gig 7200rpm 16mb cache RAID-0
Gigabyte Nforce 4 SLI



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Response Number 6
Name: TJ297
Date: August 8, 2006 at 22:57:02 Pacific
Subject: new gaming pc
Reply: (edit)
If they are charging more than 20-30 bucks to put it together then they are screwing u over... if you know how to put one together then go for it... if u screw it up, u could end up with an expensive and ugly doorstop... and they wont warranty it.

TJ297 All Prices are in Auzzie Dollars =D

AMD 3800+
2 Gig RAM
Nvidia 7800GT
Thermaltake 430w PSU
Antec LAN-boy Case
Onboard Sound WOOOOT
Surprisingly not bad :p


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Response Number 7
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: August 9, 2006 at 05:25:20 Pacific
Subject: new gaming pc
Reply: (edit)
"If they are charging more than 20-30 bucks to put it together then they are screwing u over..."

I completely disagree. It takes time to put the system togehter, and they should be compensated for that. $30 usually won't pay for a half hour of bench time these days...

The option is always there for him to assemble the machine himself, but if someone is paid to do it, they should be paid for that work. I wouldn't even look at a PC for $30.

Please help survivors of Hurricane Katrina!

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