DFI board will cost me 70 euro more so i could go for the X1800XT 256MB and buy a better mobo. ATi Radeon 9600 PRO AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Gigabyte K8NSC-939 1Gb Team Group DDR400 Maxtor 200Gb 450 Watts PSU 4 vents

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and the board doesnt support SATA2 and Dual channel mode so i dont know if getting 2Gb would be really worth it ATi Radeon 9600 PRO AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Gigabyte K8NSC-939 1Gb Team Group DDR400 Maxtor 200Gb 450 Watts PSU 4 vents

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You're looking at the wrong board then http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136163

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but no SATA2 or is it? but in the end im still dealing with this problem: soundcard yes or no w/7.1 surround system or an extra Stick of 1Gb yes or no can only choose 1 of both.. ATi Radeon 9600 PRO AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Gigabyte K8NSC-939 1Gb Team Group DDR400 Maxtor 200Gb 450 Watts PSU 4 vents

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The soundcard could be added later without any additional cost of eating something you're replacing since you'd use what's onboard. I'd hold off a bit. I'd go with 2GB of RAM because DDR memory is only going to go up from here as RAM makers shift production to DDR2. The Gigabyte board you referenced isn't an NForce4 Ultra motherboard. That is why the cost is that much higher probably to go to a DFI. Look at the DFI Infinity NForce4 Ultra chipset. You should definitely get an NForce4 Ultra motherboard, even if you go Gigabyte! That is honestly more important than 2GB of RAM. "Milk was a bad choice!"

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it is.. it is an K8NF-9 (nVidia nForce4 Ultra) now i think ill go with 2Gb of GEIL or 2 Gb kingston Valueram what would u suggest? budget is around 170 euro ATi Radeon 9600 PRO AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Gigabyte K8NSC-939 1Gb Team Group DDR400 Maxtor 200Gb 450 Watts PSU 4 vents

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hmm 2GB OCZ GOLD GX 2-3-3-8 good enough? ATi Radeon 9600 PRO AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Gigabyte K8NSC-939 1Gb Team Group DDR400 Maxtor 200Gb 450 Watts PSU 4 vents

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If you aren't upgrading to a hardcore gaming rig, this is pretty much a waste of time & other resources.

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I'd take the OCZ over Kingston and Geil. "Milk was a bad choice!"

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ghehehe why is that saber? what would u suggest ATi Radeon 9600 PRO AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Gigabyte K8NSC-939 1Gb Team Group DDR400 Maxtor 200Gb 450 Watts PSU 4 vents

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I would suggest you postpone your upgrade plans until you actually NEED one or at least build something that'll run circles around what you got now..........<EOM>

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yeah i could wait a little longer but by the time i need to upgrade i wont get enough cash for my pc now! hmm i really need to reconsider this and get a second, third maybe 6th opinion. ATi Radeon 9600 PRO AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Gigabyte K8NSC-939 1Gb Team Group DDR400 Maxtor 200Gb 450 Watts PSU 4 vents

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.......the best time to also get the most trade-in value for a new car is not very much after you drive it off the lot....;-)

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hehe i know i know but i can get 750 euro for my current system i know its a little ripoff but its for a friend so i wouldnt wanna miss the chance the only investment i make is 200 euro well that i less than the X1800XT i was planning to upgrade for i mean getting an extra stick of 1Gb and a an X1800Xt a 520Watt 28A and an axtra 50Gb hard disc + 8Mb Extra Cache and better mobo with nVidia nForce 4-Ultra for only 200 euro!!!! thats a hell of deal i think:P now you again ATi Radeon 9600 PRO AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Gigabyte K8NSC-939 1Gb Team Group DDR400 Maxtor 200Gb 450 Watts PSU 4 vents

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LOL....I had a gut feeling someone that ain't you was being ripped off in this whole transaction all along, but thanks anyway for admitting to it. However, there is still not much to the upgrade if you aren't getting something much faster & better, and $1100.00 won't get you that IMHO.

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yeah but if i had to upgrade to your standards it would be like an FX-57 (FX-60 isnt better for gaming) with 2 X1900XTX 512Mb TOXIC or an XFX 7950 GX2 1GB XXX with a 1kW PSU and some Terrabyte with an 18x DVD writer and 4Gig of memory and the best DFI board i can get but that would obviously cost me about 4 times the price and in a few years those items will become way much cheaper anyway. and i dont know if games can keep up with the graphics i mean the games should look like all the intro's like the trailers if u know what i mean. u seen the trailer of COD3? the graphics used there its just a movie if you are playing the actual graphics wont be that high and when they do i think that technology has gone so far that games just cant keep up and that the technology eventually stop growing because there is no need to develop better ones and it would all come down to who sells the most and AMD or INTEL dies! that is what i think will happen :P ATi Radeon 9600 PRO AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Gigabyte K8NSC-939 1Gb Team Group DDR400 Maxtor 200Gb 450 Watts PSU 4 vents

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There aren't many of us that recommend bleeding edge technology (most expensive board, FX-60, top of the video line cards in SLi, 4GB RAM, etc). Most of us realize that there's a huge depreciation in PC hardware. It makes much more sense to stay a step or two behind, than to camp out on ATI's front lawn just to be the 1st to pay $600 for the latest card...but there are always extremists in all groups. Other than your weak video card, you appear to have a solid system. All I would do is upgrade the card & be happy about the money I saved.

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thanks for the wise words but then i would have to wait and buy an AGP card. i just thought upgrading to PCI-e would be better and it will cost me less then just buying an AGP card ATi Radeon 9600 PRO AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Gigabyte K8NSC-939 1Gb Team Group DDR400 Maxtor 200Gb 450 Watts PSU 4 vents

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