A Radeon 9200 plays all new and old games perfectly (atleast 30fps). I *can* back that up, as I have done fps tests and know it for sure. Overclocking helps achieve this. And you say I am out of my mind?? You pay 500 bucks for a video card!!!?!? *that* is the definition of out of your mind. It is very uneconomical to spend more than $500 for your whole pc. The performance/price ratio is best when you buy each component at $50-$100. You buy alienware and dell computers dont you??. Excuse me, your *parents* buy them for you. Okay, so I can admit this-those stupid dynamic shadows in doom3 and games of the like bog the 9200 down-just to 20fps. But they are useless and you can turn them off. And doom3 is a peice of crap game anyway everything is dark so theres no point in having good graphics anyway. And its a non-intelligent shootemup. I only play intelligent strategy games. Hmm...maybe thats why i spoke to this guy in the first place?? Because the 9200 could handle any strategy game out there, or of the similar less-video-intensive games LIKE SIMS 2!!??Quick+cheaply made console games have taken over the game market and 99% of games are all about eye candy. They suck. Gameplay counts like 80% in how good a game is. But theres plenty of rich college kids and child delinquents to fuel the graphics-crazed phase game development is going through these days (all of which are given money by their parents to buy amd64's and $500 nvidia graphics cards.) ~matt AMD athlon 2800+ 512 pc3200 80gb SATA ATI Radeon 9250 - 883 3dmarks baby!!

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Or some people actually work for a living and bust there a.... well never mind. In my opion the ACTUAL question looks to me to be an overheating problem, and just sitting and upright fan outside the computer I'm guessing is not remotely enough. If you need help installing an new fan/power supply, maybe try googling it? believe me there are 100's of tutorial out there.... Windows Xp Home Celeron 2.8 Ghz 768mb Ram Geforce 5700LE PCI Card 128MB 128 bit

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anoncompboy, I suggest you do some homework before you make yourself look stupid. The Radeon 9200 is an old news DX8 card that never was all that good to begin with. It was considered an "entry level" card over 2 yrs ago & it certainly has gotten any better. From a 2003 article at Tom's Hardware: "The Radeon 9200 VPU (RV280) is the replacement part for the Radeon 9000 series. This chip only differs from its predecessor in its AGP 8x support and its higher clock speeds. The core is still based on the Radeon 8500 design with its four pixel pipelines, but, like the 9000, it only has one texturing unit per pipe, instead of the 8500's two. Despite the "9" in the product name, the chip is not a DirectX 9 part. Instead, being based on the 8500 and 900 VPUs, it only supports the DirectX 8.1 specification. The antialiasing implementation is also not quite up to date, as the chip still employs the slow SuperSampling technique." And FYI, if you look at my sig, I don't own a $500 card...I have a $60 Radeon 9550 & it will run circles around a 9200. Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @ 8.5 x 200MHz 768MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7 Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB WinME/WinXP Pro

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Jam, im not hatin. Im just trying to say im happy with my card. What you said is 100% correct. I know its the last dx8 card, and, yes, it is outdated somewhat. Ya, your 9550 is better than mine, and had I done more research before buying, I would have bought a 9550. But what I did know when I was buying my card was that I wasn't paying any more than 70-80 bucks, as I was on a budget. What I just really hate is that everyone is pressing these 500 dollar cards, for consumers whether they are gamers or not. ~matt AMD athlon 2800+ Barton 512 pc3200 80gb SATA ATI Radeon 9250

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Sticking up for a component that you own and giving out a bad advice are two totally different things, I have nothing against you personally but truth is, your argument stinks because it's got more holes than a whirlpool washer. Firstly, I don't see recommendation for a $500.00 card in any of the responses to allibabab, secondly let me quote you "It is very uneconomical to spend more than $500 for your whole pc. The performance/price ratio is best when you buy each component at $50-$100." was that even in english because I am unable to comprehend the heck you mean, FYI there are people with computers that cost $1000.00+ that do not game at all but need the equipment for a lot of other computing and computer related tasks. You also touched OEM's, while OEM systems may not be ideal for everyone, it is not the answer to every consumer's computer needs and guess what, not everybody has the time or is that inclined to be able to build computers themselves. Most notably, the reason a lot more people even ventured or picked up on that hobby today is because the components involved can be sourced relatively cheaply, so costly mistakes are easily forgiven. Now DOOM3 was a game that was meant to be played dark and in the dark to really immerse yourself in it. You play it with a surround system and the lights totally out at say 1.30am-3.30am in the morning and then you know what am talking about. Lastly, I can afford a $500.00 card, I chose not to buy one but given one for free, I'd take it and thank the person. Now my using it depends on the other components that make up my rig, if the card is going be bottlenecked by those components then I may not even use it until I balance things out, however if my other components are at par, I'll slab that bad boy into my rig in a jiffy and rock the card to the fullest, that price vs performance ratio you and I talk about is quickly decided when there money to burn and the clear winner is always performance. List of lists

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1st, let me correct myself: "It was considered an "entry level" card over 2 yrs ago & it certainly has gotten any better" I meant to say, "HASN'T gotten any better" "What I just really hate is that everyone is pressing these 500 dollar cards, for consumers whether they are gamers or not" You have to remember that we're in the gaming forum...gamers love their FPS's & all the eye candy, & they're willing to pay for it. Personally, I'm not. 1st, my system would bottleneck a high end card anyway, 2nd, I'm not a hardcore gamer, & 3rd, I'm too cheap (LOL). The Radeon 9550 fits my needs nicely & it didn't break the bank ($60). Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @ 8.5 x 200MHz 768MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7 Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB WinME/WinXP Pro

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"Ya, your 9550 is better than mine, and had I done more research before buying, I would have bought a 9550." Match, serve, point! Victory goes to Jam! :-)

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lol nice way of putting it ~matt Abit KV7-V AMD athlon 2800+ Barton 512 pc3200 80gb SATA ATI Radeon 9250

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