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intel core duo faster or as fast?

Original Message
Name: derrzk
Date: June 14, 2006 at 05:18:10 Pacific
Subject: intel core duo faster or as fast?
OS: Windows XP Home Edition
CPU/Ram: Intel Pentium M 1.5GHz/1G
Model/Manufacturer: Dell
Comment:
I really want to clear up these confusing things about processors. I don't know who to believe!!! Can you please tell me how fast the amd processors are compared to intel's??? A lot of people say that amd has the fastest processor, but on one site it says that amd processors are 1.3 times faster than intel's at the same GHz. Making AMD's fastest processor (FX-62, 2.8GHz) 3.64GHz. Should I believe that??? Please email me back on this!!!

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Response Number 1
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: June 14, 2006 at 05:20:02 Pacific
Subject: intel core duo faster or as fast?
Reply: (edit)
Right now, AMD has the fastest processor in the FX-62. However, the Conroe based Intel's may change that when they finally become available.

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Response Number 2
Name: derrzk
Date: June 14, 2006 at 05:20:38 Pacific
Subject: intel core duo faster or as fast?
Reply: (edit)
Oops, sorry I mistyped my subject!!! The subject is really this: Intel vs. AMD

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Response Number 3
Name: derrzk
Date: June 14, 2006 at 05:26:28 Pacific
Subject: intel core duo faster or as fast?
Reply: (edit)
Are you sure??? Is Intel's Pentium 4 3.8GHz second fastest??? How fast compared to Intel processors is the FX-62??? Is it faster because AMD's processors has faster FSBs??? Please Answer!!!

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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: June 14, 2006 at 06:49:59 Pacific
Subject: intel core duo faster or as fast?
Reply: (edit)
Dude, this info is readily available if you do a little gooling.

It's not about GHz anymore...it's about efficiency. AMD does things differently than Intel & their systems are much more efficient. That's why an A64 FX-57 running at 2.8GHZ can beat a P4 Prescott running at 3.8GHz. It depends on the application though. Have a look at this interactive chart...pick any 2 CPUs & the benchtest, then see how they compare:

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=238&chart=61&model2=212

As for the Conroe, this recent test at Tom's Hardware has it beating the FX-62, but the Conroe hasn't been offically released yet & I'm sure AMD is scrurrying around doing it's best to retain the "fastest desktop CPU" title. We're gonna have to wait & see how things go once the production CPUs hit the market, but as of now, it's not looking good for AMD:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/06/05/first_benchmarks_conroe_vs_fx-62/


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Response Number 5
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: June 14, 2006 at 07:32:21 Pacific
Subject: intel core duo faster or as fast?
Reply: (edit)
LOL, I got to try "gooling". It sounds fun. :-)

Sorry, the mistype just reads funny. :-)

The thing about AMD is still the memory controller built into the CPU die itself instead of into the Northbridge chipset of the motherboard. That's the secret to why AMD does so well compared to Intel even thought their clock speeds aren't as high.

Also, keep in mind the FX-62 has been around for awhile now, while Conroe isn't even out yet. On top of that, prices for Conroe you know aren't gonna be exactly good for the value conscious. I'm not buying an FX-62 or Conroe anytime soon, so I could care less who has the fastest $1000 CPU. My next CPU purchase will be an Opteron 165 or 170 most likely.

One last note, AMD seems more focused on improving other aspects of CPU technology rather than speed. The AM2 socket CPU's dissipate less heat, consume less power, etc.

I expect them to lose the speed crown for a bit, as AMD does the things that will get them more of a bite into the server CPU market. AMD now can be bought in HP and IBM brand servers, and I suspect it won't be long before Dell will have to provide AMD based servers as well. With less heat dissipation and power consumption, AMD CPU's could be used to pack higher CPU densities into servers while providing a more stable platform. As a network engineer, I can't wait to see affordable, reliable 4 and 8 way dual core Opterons in a server (8 and 16 cores respectively). I've been nothing but impressed with HP servers based on the AMD CPU's I've setup.

Anyway, I'll stop now since this is a gaming forum. :-)

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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: June 14, 2006 at 07:40:01 Pacific
Subject: intel core duo faster or as fast?
Reply: (edit)
Damn typos!

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Response Number 7
Name: jam
Date: June 14, 2006 at 07:41:05 Pacific
Subject: intel core duo faster or as fast?
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Hey, I just typed that in all caps...let me try again:

DAMN TYPOS!


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Response Number 8
Name: Steging
Date: June 14, 2006 at 11:30:12 Pacific
Subject: intel core duo faster or as fast?
Reply: (edit)
lol jam is having fun i think:D:D

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Response Number 9
Name: derrzk
Date: June 14, 2006 at 11:36:46 Pacific
Subject: intel core duo faster or as fast?
Reply: (edit)
Thank you for the info!!!

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