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Name: jimmyjam
Date: January 24, 2007 at 07:20:28 Pacific
OS: HP - Compaq Presario SR12
CPU/Ram: 1.5gb of ddr ram
Comment:

Well this is kinda dumb, but I just wanted to know what my computer can be compatible with. I know its vague but here is the model HP - Compaq Presario SR1265CL Desktop/PC. So yeah if anyone could, tell me what a good graphic card would be for it. Im willing to spend a little over 200$ for it. Thanks



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Response Number 1
Name: Sabertooth
Date: January 24, 2007 at 09:06:45 Pacific
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Get a 9600XT & call it a day.

I would love to give you a link - but you'd think this is too easy.

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Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: January 24, 2007 at 09:32:21 Pacific
Reply:

This will confirm that your motherboard has an AGP slot:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...

One of the problems with your HP/Compaq system is it's lack of a good power supply. High peformance AGP cards require a direct PSU plug-in to supplement their power needs, so having a decent PSU is critical.

I agree with Sabertooth that the 9600XT is the best AGP card that doesn't require the plug-in & will probably be the simplest & cheapest route for you to take.

"Get a 9600XT & call it a day"


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Response Number 3
Name: nelson
Date: January 24, 2007 at 14:09:56 Pacific
Reply:

heard that a very affordable 8300 has beeen released but i dont think it will be for AGP


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Response Number 4
Name: Dark Sky
Date: January 24, 2007 at 16:32:30 Pacific
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"heard that a very affordable 8300 has beeen released but i dont think it will be for AGP"

Usually it will be. nvidia will make agp variant but maybe 6 months later. PCIx mobo getting cheap these days.

"Get a 9600XT & call it a day."

For 200$ rather than you buy 9600XT better that you buy 6600GT DDR3 AGP and the CoolerMaster Extreme 430Watt (80% efficiency). Use the latest nvidia firmware and you got the performance on par with the 9800XT.

I don't recommend using stock psu anyway. It drinks power a lot but produce less than 50% efficiency. Its like you are buying a big cake with full price but the cake vendor only give you half of the cake to you to eat.

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Response Number 5
Name: jam
Date: January 24, 2007 at 18:51:47 Pacific
Reply:

You have to look at the big picture.

This is an HP/Compaq. It's a socket A system based on the VIA KM400A chipset & although it supports the CPU at 400FSB, the specs claim it only supports PC2100/PC2700 RAM. Assuming that's correct & given the fact that the BIOS isn't "tuneable", the RAM will hinder performance.

IMO, spending $200 for a new PSU & video card would be a waste of money.

The 9600XT is a good fit & it's under $60.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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Response Number 6
Name: Dark Sky
Date: January 24, 2007 at 19:39:24 Pacific
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"Im willing to spend a little over 200$ for it"

There is no such thing as waste of money buying a more efficient psu. the only thing to be considered will be whether the psu can fit into the case or not. If the psu didn't fit then there is always a choice to get a more efficient psu in the market. sigh!

the 6600 as large as 9600. the price also almost not more than $100.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Anyway i dont say 9600XT is a bad idea. Its great for the pc considering the performance is also good. At least it can play FarCry with ease.

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Response Number 7
Name: jimmyjam
Date: January 24, 2007 at 20:03:19 Pacific
Reply:

Well, how can you confirm your power supply? For example I wanna get this graphic card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
But I'm not sure if my comp can support it. Could anyone tell me if it could, and what the powersupply of my comp is? I heard the average is around 400watt?


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: January 24, 2007 at 20:32:58 Pacific
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Let's face it...this is a crappy system. The motherboard sucks & it's based on a weak chipset. The CPU is OK but the RAM is bottlenecking the system. And ANY video card that's installed in it will perform better than the crappy onboard graphics.

The 7800GS is overkill! You don't have a power supply that can handle the load & the CPU will bottleneck the card. You need to stay within the limits of what's appropriate for the hardware you have. Did you bother to read the requirements for that card?

"A minimum 400W system power supply (with 12V current rating of 20A or more)
An AGP compliant motherboard. Some motherboards violate the AGP specification and therefore this card may not physically fit in some systems
An available hard disk drive power dongle (smaller floppy disk drive connector is not sufficient)"

You're gonna do what you wanna do anyway, but don't say you weren't warned.


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Response Number 9
Name: TMP-Man
Date: January 24, 2007 at 21:39:12 Pacific
Reply:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...

Looks like you have an athlon xp 3200+ CPU so getting a 9600xt should not be a bad choice, but 7600gs agp will work better...


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Response Number 10
Name: jam
Date: January 25, 2007 at 05:42:50 Pacific
Reply:

Yes, but it's a 3200+ running on a KM400 board with PC2700 RAM, a non-tweakable BIOS, & inadequate power supply.


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Response Number 11
Name: TMP-Man
Date: January 25, 2007 at 08:53:29 Pacific
Reply:

Since radeon 9600xt has power consumption similar to 7600gs, so I figure he can get the 7600gs for better performance...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vi...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vi...

27.4 watt for 7600gs vs 22.72 watt for the 9600xt ~5 watts difference...

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Response Number 12
Name: Sabertooth
Date: January 25, 2007 at 09:10:46 Pacific
Reply:

Let assume hypothetically that this system is currently worth $400 (even though I don't see myself paying nowhere near that amount for such a system) & now he's planning of spending $200 (50% of its worth) upgrading it. The kicker is - if he decides say a week after this upgrade that he wants to sell the computer, he not going to get $600 for it & I doubt he'll even get a conservative $450 for it.

Let's face it - this system booked it's one way trip to the metaphorical city of diminishing returns years back. And as alluded to by jam - there no reason to spend any more than $50, preferably even less on any types of upgrade to it.

"Get a 9600XT & call it a day" or sell the darn thing & see if you can afford to build a new one with the proceeds from the sale & whatever you may have saved.


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