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Name: antaresQ
Date: June 23, 2007 at 21:18:52 Pacific
Subject: Help on graphics upgrade
OS: Windows XP Home Edition S
CPU/Ram: 2.53GHZ / 1GB PC266
Model/Manufacturer: MSI MS-6526
Comment:

I need help on upgrading the graphics on my old mobo with the statd specs and to add, it has an agp 4x slot. Anyone knows what is the best card to get that my pc can fully utilize. I was thinking of the 7600GT but my friend says that a 7600GS would suffice, will i really see a huge difference justified by the extra $50 for geting the 7600GT or just a marginal performance for the new games that have come out in the past month or so.I would be greatful if anyone can explain to me the difference, because i dont know how the specs like pixel pipelines and memory bandwidth effects a card's performance. Thank you for replying


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Response Number 1
Name: Mattwizz3 (by mattwizz3)
Date: June 23, 2007 at 21:49:30 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Looking at these charts, the 7600GT seems to perform much better at pretty much everything:

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graph...

If your into your gaming I would say its definitely worth it.

Mattwizz3 :

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Response Number 2
Name: antaresQ
Date: June 23, 2007 at 22:24:33 Pacific
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so does my having such a mobo be good enough for the 7600GT?


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Response Number 3
Name: antaresQ
Date: June 23, 2007 at 22:27:24 Pacific
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or would it be extremely bottlenecked by it


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Response Number 4
Name: Mattwizz3 (by mattwizz3)
Date: June 24, 2007 at 01:43:08 Pacific
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Apparently the actual speed difference between AGP 4x and AGP 8x is fairly minimal, so I wouldn't worry about that too much. The one thing that might bottleneck it is your CPU, do you have a Celeron or a P4?

I bought a 6800Ultra a fair while ago and my biggest bottleneck became my CPU.

Mattwizz3 :

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Response Number 5
Name: antaresQ
Date: June 24, 2007 at 04:28:26 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

it's a P4 2.53GHZ?


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Response Number 6
Name: Mattwizz3 (by mattwizz3)
Date: June 24, 2007 at 05:25:45 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Yeah, thats OK.
You might want to do some overclocking to pick things up a bit. The 7600GT is a good card and I would certainly go for it over the 7600GS. Maby someone else will have some useful input regarding your CPU being a bottleneck. The celeron would definitely be a bottleneck but I'm not sure how that P4 goes. Maby someone else can give you an idea.

Mattwizz3 :

Vista Home Basic
2.2GHz Sempron
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Response Number 7
Name: jam
Date: June 24, 2007 at 06:50:15 Pacific
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It would help if you told us what video card you're currently using.

Your board is outdated & your CPU & RAM only run at 133MHz. IMO, this isn't a rig you should be investing much money in.

Any performance AGP video card beyond a Radeon 9600XT will require a plug-in from the power supply. Make sure your PSU is up to handling the added load or it will need to be upgraded as well. The more powerful a card you get, the more powerful a PSU you're gonna need. And I don't just mean wattage, I mean amperage. A decent brand name 500W PSU sells for at least $50 (on sale), so keep that in mind.

As for the video card, have a look at this:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06...

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Response Number 8
Name: antaresQ
Date: June 24, 2007 at 06:58:03 Pacific
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The card I'm currently using is an Geforce 4 MX440, something i'm not too proud about, haha. Does this help?


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Response Number 9
Name: jam
Date: June 24, 2007 at 07:27:40 Pacific
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Here's a VGA chart from about 3.5 yrs ago....you'll see where your MX440 ranks & how much better the 9600XT is at Call of Duty:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2003/12...

Like I said, any card better than the 9600XT will require the plug-in, so if your power supply isn't a good one, upgrading to something like the 7600GT is gonna cost you roughly $125 for the card, plus another $50+ for a 500W PSU. So you'd be investing over $175 in a system that's only worth about $100. But hey, it's your money.

XFX 7600GT

THERMALTAKE 500W PSU

Or you can spend $50 for this 9600XT & be done with it:

SAPPHIRE Radeon 9600XT

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Response Number 10
Name: antaresQ
Date: June 24, 2007 at 08:01:40 Pacific
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thanks for the advice jam, really appreciate it


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