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Name: Lizette
Date: January 8, 2004 at 08:46:38 Pacific
OS: Windows XP (Dutch)
CPU/Ram: AMD Duron 1,6 Ghz/256 Mb
Comment:

I currently have a Club3D ATi Radeon 7000 32 MB video card, but when I play Halo the computer is really slow and it 'stutters'.
What would be best; upgrading my videocard to an Asus ATi Radeon 9200SE 64 MB, or add more RAM?

Lizette



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Response Number 1
Name: Hooner
Date: January 8, 2004 at 09:07:20 Pacific
Reply:

Video card, definitely.

I have a GeForce 4 MX440 64MB (pick one up for around £25 $50) and it runs Halo like a dream.

Your processor is fine, and although Halo wont run too badly, more memory would certainly help too.


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Response Number 2
Name: Avarik
Date: January 8, 2004 at 15:58:00 Pacific
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Hooner, Halo lags on the beefiest PC's you are just a stoner. Halo is PROVEN to be laggy no matter what. I have an ATI RADEON 9600 128MB and it lags. NO matter what, Halo will not play nicely.


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Response Number 3
Name: 152
Date: January 8, 2004 at 21:12:02 Pacific
Reply:

"Halo is PROVEN to be laggy no matter what. I have an ATI RADEON 9600 128MB and it lags. NO matter what, Halo will not play nicely."

Hey um, no offense but Halo does NOT lag on the beefiest pc's. the video card you got is fairly cheap, and crappy compared to the really expensive ones, such as Radeon 9800 XT. So before you say "Halo is PROVEN to be laggy no matter what", get a better video card.

and Lizzete, upgrading your video card is the best choice, but it won't hurt to upgrade the ram too. remember that 9200se supports Direct X 8.1, and Halo is DIrect X 9.0, so you may still experience game lag. Upgrading to a Direct X 9.0 video card should increase your gaming performance for Halo. The best bang for your buck right now is the 9600 XT ($200 U.S) or for about 70$ more you can get the 9800 Pro.


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Response Number 4
Name: Hooner
Date: January 9, 2004 at 00:50:07 Pacific
Reply:

Avarik, shut up you fool, why the hell would I lie?

I have an Xp 1800+ with 256 meg of PC133 and my GeForce 4 MX440.

Now listen carefully........

IT RUNS LIKE A DREAM, OFFLINE AND ON.


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Response Number 5
Name: Hooner
Date: January 9, 2004 at 00:53:20 Pacific
Reply:

Clearly you don't have the first clue about how to setup a PC, as you seem to have some MAJOR bottle-necking going on there. I find it funny as my puny GeForce is kicking your Radeon's įss................

Learn something about PCs, come back in a year.


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Response Number 6
Name: plyduster
Date: January 9, 2004 at 01:34:33 Pacific
Reply:

Just get a ti4200, and another 256MB of RAM.



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Response Number 7
Name: david wilkins
Date: January 9, 2004 at 10:20:54 Pacific
Reply:

esp,the 9600 128mb is not that crap m8,yes the 9800xt is better but its not really worth all that money,i have a 9600xt 256mb and is runs halo ok,30fps+ with not anti aliasing or anso filter,halo is a really buggy game,my m8s got a alienware pc,it's got a amd fx pro with a 9800xt,and guess what??,halo runs choppy,and hooner,what in gods name are you talking about,you must have the halo on the lowest settings to even think about play that game with your specs,and i don't lie.


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Response Number 8
Name: Lizette
Date: January 9, 2004 at 14:59:21 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you all for your replies, but please, be nice ok?

Lizette


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Response Number 9
Name: 152
Date: January 9, 2004 at 18:11:51 Pacific
Reply:

david, the 9600 is crappy if you compare it to the pro & xt versions. i too think halo is a bit buggy but turning off vysnc in video options can increase a lot of fps especially with 9800xt. overclocking can help a o.
by the way, whats fx pro? do you mean *ultra* by any chance.

and hooner, a geforce 4 mx is much worser than Radeon 9600 lol


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Response Number 10
Name: Hooner
Date: January 9, 2004 at 23:48:42 Pacific
Reply:

I never made any claims that my card is better than a 9600 EsP, but if my card can run it, why is this chump having trouble with his 9600??

David, 1024x768, all settings on FULL, she runs like a dream, wether or not you believe me, means less than nothing to me.


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Response Number 11
Name: 152
Date: January 10, 2004 at 01:06:43 Pacific
Reply:

ok well i installed the demo version of halo to see if it really is laggy or not.

my system specs

Pentium 4 2.8ghz
Geforce FX 5700 Ultra O/C'd [Note that this video card is about the same price as Radeon 9600 XT]
Creative Soundblaster Audigy LS
512mb PC3200 DDr400 RAM

I ran the game in "No Vsync Mode" at 1024x768 No AA or AF and high texture & video quality etc...
the fps was usually around 50-70. The lowest fps was around 30 and the highest was 120. I played Halo for a while and it did lag sometimes but barely, most of the time it was very fast & the graphics were amazing.


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Response Number 12
Name: Hooner
Date: January 10, 2004 at 02:39:51 Pacific
Reply:

I don't agree, I don't think the graphics warrant the strain it puts on your system.

There are much more beautiful games out there (Max Payne 2, Call Of Duty, UT23K) which don't put half the strain on our systems.

We will always suffer when games are ported over from consoles, the only exception is Vice City.


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Response Number 13
Name: david wilkins
Date: January 10, 2004 at 11:17:17 Pacific
Reply:

ok,esp,what i meant was a amd fx proccesser,hooner,i agree with you,the graphics are good,but nowhere near like that in ut2003 and unreal2,both these games run like a dream on my pc with highest settings and high anti alias 4xaa&8af 1024-768.i can't for the life of me see why this game is such a system hog,anyway,don't really like the game that much,max payne 2 is better,and vice city


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Response Number 14
Name: 152
Date: January 10, 2004 at 21:19:58 Pacific
Reply:

its somehow weird, I compared Unreal 2 & Halo, both have awesome graphics but Halo is sometimes laggy and Unreal 2 is not...does the game have a few bug issues or what?


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Response Number 15
Name: Hooner
Date: January 11, 2004 at 00:35:06 Pacific
Reply:

It's AI apparently, the AI routines are so "complex" that when there are a lot of enemy around, it chokes the CPU.

Do you see anything special? anything better than the Half-Life marines who graced our screens 5 years ago?

It's a lame excuse.


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Response Number 16
Name: Fishystix
Date: January 11, 2004 at 17:48:06 Pacific
Reply:

Kiss my shoes boys

Got a P4 2.8 w/ 800 fsb, 1024mb ddr400 ram and 9800 pro and I still stall in some places (run everything max and 1600x1200, but still!). Halo is just a poorly build piece of software. Microsoft should have done a better job at porting it over to pc.


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Response Number 17
Name: 152
Date: January 11, 2004 at 20:09:16 Pacific
Reply:

Hmm when Half-Life 2 comes out I doubt that it will lag as much as HALO...will it? I think my FX5700u would run perfectly with the game. Can't wait till it comes out...


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Response Number 18
Name: Morth.com
Date: January 12, 2004 at 10:46:48 Pacific
Reply:

Halo does lag but most of the time it has nothing to do with your video card as much as it has to do with the server. SO DONT EXPECT TO PLAY HALO AND TO HAVE IT RUN PERFECTLY EVERY TIME IT WONT HAPPEN!!!


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Response Number 19
Name: Kevin
Date: January 27, 2004 at 13:40:06 Pacific
Reply:

I have an Intel 82845G graphics card and I am tired of this STUPID!!! error message that it doesn't have 3D T & L . How can I FIX THIS problem !!!!!!!!!!!



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Response Number 20
Name: crazy
Date: February 8, 2004 at 21:37:12 Pacific
Reply:

I currently have a p4 3.2 running at 3.5ghz.. 1gb ram.. "asus" 9800xt.. wd 73gb 10k sata hdd.. and.. HALO still does not play very well/or as well that would be hoped for.. or as some other person may say "run like a dream" because I highly doubt that person is getting any good frame rates at all.. run timedemo with the same settings as that I have..

3500MHz, 1024MB, 256M ATI Unknown (DeviceID=0x4e4a) Driver=6.14.10.6414 Shader=2.0
D:\Microsoft Games\Halo\halo.exe -timedemo (Version=1.0.3.606)
Frames=4700
Total Time=92.84s
Average frame rate=50.63fps
Below 5fps= 14% (time) 0% (frames) (13.147s spent in 12 frames)
Below 10fps= 14% (time) 0% (frames)
Below 15fps= 14% (time) 0% (frames)
Below 20fps= 15% (time) 0% (frames)
Below 25fps= 16% (time) 1% (frames)
Below 30fps= 24% (time) 5% (frames)
Below 40fps= 38% (time) 14% (frames)
Below 50fps= 46% (time) 21% (frames)
Below 60fps= 58% (time) 34% (frames)
###Sound Options###
Hardware Acceleration= No
Sound Quality= High
Environmental Sound= No
Sound Variety= High
###Video Options###
Resolution= 1024 x 768
Refresh rate= 85 Hz
Framerate throttle= No Vsync
Specular= Yes
Shadows= Yes
Decals= Yes
Particles= Off
Texture Quality= High



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