whats up with everyone saying the nvidia geforce fx 5200 128MB sucks? it doesnt even suck.. i just recently switched from my old sucky comp to a new dell with P4 2.7 Ghz processor and i get 100 fps flat on cs.. and i get well over 70 fps on Frozen THrone.. even though the hting on Tom's Hardware said fps for the fx5200 is only 30 on TFT.. even with all the settings on high my fx5200 still gives me over 60 fps, so all you geforce fx 5200 haters.. it IS a good card.. even though it IS a budget card

i agree, i'm running the FX5200 ultra 128 MB, and i've been quite pleased. My question is, would this card be able to run Doom 3? i know it wouldn't run it very well, but with all of the video options turned all the way down, would the game run smoothly?

The FX5200 card "sucks" if you want high resolutions with image quality up, particularly in DirectX 9 games. The card simply lacks the raw horsepower needed to do such things. However, the card is priced obviously very attractively. Keep in mind, it's still a current gen card. Yes, it will do anything you could ever want in CS, no question. In defense of its critics, that game is VERY old, so any card can do that. You can't say it's a good card because of that. Warcraft 3 is also not a good comparison of video cards relative to each other. But you prove what I've been saying all along, there is a spot in the market for this card. It sounds like it fits you guys like a glove, and that's fine. However, the card is, no doubt, a "throw away." You will see it's age VERY quickly, since DX9 games are about to hit the shelves. Case in point, Doom3 (even though it's not directX 9). Yes, the FX5200 will run it. But your resolution and IQ are gonna have to be turned down significantly to get acceptable frame rates probably next to lowest. Half Life 2 will probably be even worse. For avid gamers on a budget, you will have to replace the card most likely in a year. Not that it's a big deal, you didn't spend a lot of money on it anyway. At that point, you can pick up the next card at the same price range and be happy again. For me? No, I want at least 1024x768 in my games. Some anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering good, too! ;-) I plopped down $200 for a 9800 pro. However, I'm not gonna have to upgrade my card necessarily next year either, but I'm an idiot and probably will. ;-) MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!

nvidia cards r very good. i think geforce 4 fx 5200 is great, but if ucompare it to radeon 9800pro it does suck. see radeon 9800pro has better shaders, it runs on dx9.0 and it has smoothvision 2.1 peace

Agreed-Halo and UT2003 perform impressively and quire playable on my FX5200 (128MB) using the ForceWare 61.76 at 800x600 resoultion.I'm getting The Sims 2-and EA says the FX5200 will be supported for that game. You'd need a Radeon 9800/X800/ or nVIDA GeForce 5900/5950/6800 for best gameplay with Doom 3-but your FX5200 may handle Doom at a low graphics quality setting. Invader Zim "Invaders blood marches through my veins, like giant radioactive rubberpants! The pants command me! Do not ignore my veins!”

mad russian... You can also say the price of a 9800 pro sucks compared to an FX5200! ;-) MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!

I think I came to the conclusion that it sucked because the 256mb one I had did run games at a noticably lower standard than my 128mb Ti4200. I guess at the time of the FX range launch, after hearing all the hype I expected the entry-level FX (The 5200) to perhaps be a DX9 compatible replacement for the Ti range especially considering it cost as much as a Ti4600 upon launch and I expected the upper FX range to be a quantum leap of standards all together. I was very disappointed. The one I had was an XFX 256mb FX5200 and the box said "If ever there was a reason to feel sorry for the competition, this is it" Perhaps it should have said: " Hey, It's cheap. You get what you pay for" When the FX5200 went back, the old Geforce2 MX200 32mb was dusted off from it's two year retirement (Ti4200 was installed in a different machine by now) Tried it on COD and performance was roughly on par (I.E - not very impressed) My point is that it is a cheap card, which is fine. It's good for older games but no better, sometimes worse than previouis generation cards on more recent games. Cards that can be had for less money too!!. AMD Athlon XP2200+ Aero7 lite 512mb Crucial pc2700 Abit NF7-s V2.0 Geforce4 Ti4200 128mb SB live 5.1 Digital WinXp Pro + SP1