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Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950

Original Message
Name: lindaetterlee
Date: February 21, 2007 at 13:46:59 Pacific
Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950
OS: win xp home
CPU/Ram: athon 64 3400/1 gb
Model/Manufacturer: custom
Comment:
IS there really any difference between the Ati x1650 and the x1950? This is concerning the AGP Models.

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Response Number 1
Name: zcubed
Date: February 21, 2007 at 14:02:21 Pacific
Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950
Reply: (edit)
theres a huge differnece in terms of gaming. check tomshardware.com. click the vga charts there.

Pentium D 945 3.4GHz
Foxconn 865G7MF-SH mATX Mobo
2GB G.Skill RAM DDR400 2-3-2-5
2x250GB HDD
2xDVD-RW
HIS x1950pro turbo AGP 256mb
ATI TV 550pro card
600W Ultra X-finity PSU


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Response Number 2
Name: Pariah
Date: February 21, 2007 at 15:05:26 Pacific
Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950
Reply: (edit)
The biggest differences are that the X1650 has 12 shaders and is 128bit, the X1950 has 36 shaders and is 256bit. Clock speeds are about the same. The X1650 is a good card........The X1950 is a great card!

P4 3.20HT 800mhz FSB
Asrock P4I65G
2x1024mb OCZ Value DDR400 Dual Channel
80GB Diamondmax9+ SATA 160GB Diamondmax10 SATA Sapphire Radeon X1650 PRO 256mb
Hiper Type R 530W PSU


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Response Number 3
Name: lindaetterlee
Date: February 21, 2007 at 15:25:00 Pacific
Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950
Reply: (edit)
I am thinking about getting <url>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102071</url>

What do you think?


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Response Number 4
Name: Pariah
Date: February 21, 2007 at 16:05:27 Pacific
Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950
Reply: (edit)
It looks sweet to me. Although, If you're gonna get a top end card like that, you want another gig of RAM. When you play games at high settings and resolution (which you will do with that card) you're RAM will max out, causing lag/freezes, so you're gonna have to revert back to lower settings. Get more RAM first, or you're wasting your money!

P4 3.20HT 800mhz FSB
Asrock P4I65G
2x1024mb OCZ Value DDR400 Dual Channel
80GB Diamondmax9+ SATA 160GB Diamondmax10 SATA Sapphire Radeon X1650 PRO 256mb
Hiper Type R 530W PSU


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Response Number 5
Name: TMP-Man
Date: February 21, 2007 at 16:22:42 Pacific
Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950
Reply: (edit)
"Get more RAM first, or you're wasting your money!"

Buying a radeon x1950pro agp is already a waste of money... As suggested above get another 1GB RAM ~$80 + $200 video card + better power supply if your current one is el-cheapo ~$70 ~$350 total... If you want better gaming performance, why not build a whole new system with PCI-E?

TMP-Man

Asus P5P800-SE PAT
P4 506 @ 4009Mhz 1.3625v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 1700RPM 92MM + AS5
2GB OCZ 2-3-2-5 DDR400
120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD
Leadtek 7600 AGP 590/1600 VF700 ALCU AS5


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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: February 21, 2007 at 18:04:11 Pacific
Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950
Reply: (edit)
We already went thru all this in your other post! You need more RAM, a bigger/better power supply, PLUS a video card. Regardless, the X1950Pro is TOO much card for your system. The X1650Pro is a much better fit.

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Response Number 7
Name: jam
Date: February 21, 2007 at 18:05:52 Pacific
Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950
Reply: (edit)
BTW, in your other post, you said you only had 512MB RAM...now you say 1GB. Which is it?

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Response Number 8
Name: lindaetterlee
Date: February 22, 2007 at 08:13:37 Pacific
Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950
Reply: (edit)
Oh sorry must have been a typo. I have 2x512 mb sticks.

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Response Number 9
Name: zcubed
Date: February 22, 2007 at 13:38:11 Pacific
Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950
Reply: (edit)
umm what psu do u have? ur processor is fine for that graphics card. btw avoid taht sapphire card at all costs. it has some major problems. go for a 256mb x1950pro agp.

Pentium D 945 3.4GHz
Foxconn 865G7MF-SH mATX Mobo
2GB G.Skill RAM DDR400 2-3-2-5
2x250GB HDD
2xDVD-RW
HIS x1950pro turbo AGP 256mb
ATI TV 550pro card
600W Ultra X-finity PSU


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Response Number 10
Name: jam
Date: February 22, 2007 at 14:27:26 Pacific
Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950
Reply: (edit)
"ur processor is fine for that graphics card"

It's a S754 A64 on a VIA K8T800 based board that only runs single channel mode. This is not a system worthy of the X1950Pro.

Go for the Radeon X1650PRO or the GeForce 7600GS as was recommended in your other post. They're less than 1/2 the price! But you may STILL need a PSU...you never did tell us the make/model/wattage of the one you have?


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Response Number 11
Name: zcubed
Date: February 22, 2007 at 19:38:55 Pacific
Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950
Reply: (edit)
if he can shell out the money for a x1950pro but its too good for his system mayhaps he should go with a 7600gt. it is midway between the x1950pro and the x1650pro.but he has to have a good psu either way for a good gfx card.

Pentium D 945 3.4GHz
Foxconn 865G7MF-SH mATX Mobo
2GB G.Skill RAM DDR400 2-3-2-5
2x250GB HDD
2xDVD-RW
HIS x1950pro turbo AGP 256mb
ATI TV 550pro card
600W Ultra X-finity PSU


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Response Number 12
Name: bencho
Date: February 22, 2007 at 21:54:58 Pacific
Subject: Difference between x1650 and x1950
Reply: (edit)
the difference is 300

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