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component talk

Original Message
Name: stretch87
Date: July 9, 2006 at 19:34:30 Pacific
Subject: component talk
OS: xp pro sp2
CPU/Ram: 3500+/1gb
Model/Manufacturer: custom
Comment:
Hello,

I havn't looked at computer hardware for a while now, but my friend wants me to advise him on building a machine for some gaming.

From my research, I think that it would be wise to stay away from ddr2 right now.

Also, it still seems like the single core processors are the best bang for the buck. For example the Athlon 64 3800+.

I am a little bogged down with the motherboard choices. I want an ASUS, MSI, ABIT, or DFI, for around 100 bucks.

I think a 7600gt will do the job for him.

Anyway, to get to the point, is dual-core necessary? ddr2? He wants to spend around 800$ or 900$

Thanks in advance.

"White men can jump"


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Response Number 1
Name: KickedUrAss4Help
Date: July 9, 2006 at 19:49:36 Pacific
Subject: component talk
Reply: (edit)
is dual-core necessary?

not necessary but will be better in the long run and dual core proccessors i have seen for as cheap as $499


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Response Number 2
Name: Sabertooth
Date: July 9, 2006 at 20:01:11 Pacific
Subject: component talk
Reply: (edit)
Wait a couple more weeks & see what deals are out there before doing anything.

Computer Components


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Response Number 3
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 9, 2006 at 20:31:50 Pacific
Subject: component talk
Reply: (edit)
Dual core isn't needed for now. But in time, it will be required. Make sure you get a motherboard that will accept a dual core CPU later.

DDR2? It actually costs less than DDR, but it really depends upon which way you go - Intel or AMD. If you go AMD, at this point it's best to go Socket 939, and therefore, you should go DDR since S939 mobos use that. If you go Intel, there's no question about it - go DDR2.

For CPU's, don't bother with the Athlon 64 3800. It is simply a higher clocked Venice than the 3000, 3200, or 3500. If you're saving money, look at the 3000 or 3200 because clock speed just doesn't make much of a difference in performance. You'd be better off putting that money on a better video card than the 7600GT if you want to spend it. If you truly want better performance than that CPU, go with a Socket 939 CPU with 1M of cache, such as the Opteron 144, or the Athlon 64 3700. However, I would encourage you to focus more on the video card first.

To illustrate this, take the following example. While the 7600GT is a good card for the money, an Athlon 3000 with a 7800GT or 7900GT would perform far better in most games than an Athlon 64 3700 with a 7600GT. Plus, I would have him plan on upgrading to dual core on his motherboard sometime next year once the prices are low, so why waste money on a better CPU now?

As for the motherboard, DFI makes an Infinity NForce 4 Ultra motherboard for about $100. It does support all S939 dual core processors as well. DFI makes the best quality motherboards for NForce4.

Lastly, Sabertooth is right. If you can wait a few more weeks, you should see both AMD and Intel CPU prices plummet even more than they have already. It would benefit you if you can wait just a bit longer.

"Milk was a bad choice!"


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Response Number 4
Name: stretch87
Date: July 9, 2006 at 20:36:16 Pacific
Subject: component talk
Reply: (edit)
heropsycho2177

Your answer was exacly what I was looking for I appreciate it!

Stretch87

"White men can jump"


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Response Number 5
Name: stretch87
Date: July 9, 2006 at 20:40:46 Pacific
Subject: component talk
Reply: (edit)
Is this the board that you recommended?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136163

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Response Number 6
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 9, 2006 at 21:00:51 Pacific
Subject: component talk
Reply: (edit)
Yes. Make sure you get good quality memory. Most of the negative reviews I saw were memory related. What's funny is that's not a slam on the mobo; it's a slam of the chipset. But that's any dual channel chipset you'll see those issues, and NForce4 Ultra is the best performing chipset along with the SLI version.

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Response Number 7
Name: Sabertooth
Date: July 10, 2006 at 09:05:20 Pacific
Subject: component talk
Reply: (edit)
Again, don't be in a haste with your purchase plans or you'll have a fairly disgruntled friend to deal with by the time the build is completed.

Another couple of weeks shouldn't be so hard.

Computer Components


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Response Number 8
Name: stretch87
Date: July 10, 2006 at 14:21:12 Pacific
Subject: component talk
Reply: (edit)
I'm good with waiting for sure...

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