OK here we go.....im pretty new to my computers system because i was never bothered it seemed to play games....until MOH PA. Basically here is some info

NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200
AMD athlon (tm)
512 mb ram
1.25 ghz

He said this
"Your CPU is slightly under spec, but what is a 1.25GHz Athlon? I have a feeling your clock settings are wrong. I suggest you download CPUZ, unzip it, & click on CPUZ.exe & see what it says about your CPU. If you have an AthlonXP rather than a plain Athlon, your FSB may be set at 100MHz when it should be 133MHz...if so, your CPU should be running at 1.67GHz."

How do i no if my clock settings are wrong and if so how can i change them!

Please help . JoN.

help me im stupid. :

"How do i no if my clock settings are wrong and if so how can i change them!"

The response that you have in quotes is mine. Did you do as I suggested? The program CPUZ will tell you exactly what CPU you have & what your current clock settings are. The reason I suspect your CPU is setup wrong is because there is no such thing as a 1.25GHz Athlon.

Download CPUZ version 1.31 & unzip it. Then open the folder & double click on CPUZ.exe...then post back with the info. My guess is it will say you have an Athlon XP, either a Palomino or a Thoroughbred. Also, click on the mainboard tab & post back with the make/model of your board. If your CPU is clocked wrong, myself or someone else should be able to check your board specs & manaul & tell you how to correct the settings.

http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php#download

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ok right.....

MAINBOARD:

Motherboard:

Model:Nvidia-nforce
Chipset: nVidia nforce 2 Ultra 400 REV.C1
Southbridge:nVidia nforce 2 MPC
Sensor:Winbond W832627HF
BIOS:

Brand: Phoenix Technologies Ltd
Version: 6.00PG
Date: 07/10/2003

GRAPHIC INTERFACE:
Version: AGP Version 3.0
Transfer Rate:8x Max Supported 8x
Aperture Size: 64 Mbytes
Side Band enabled

CPU:

PROCESSOR:

Name: AMD Athlon XP
Code Name: Thoroghbred
Package: Socket A
Technology: 0.13µ Voltage: 1.632 v
Specification: AMD Athlon (tm)
Family:6 Model:8 Stepping:1
Ext. Family:7 ext model:8 Revision:BO
Instructions: MMX (+), 3Dnow! (+), SSE

CLOCKS:
Core Speed: 1252.9 MHz
Multiplier: x12.5
FSB: 100.2 MHz
Bus Speed:200.5 MHz

CACHE:
l1 data: 64KBytes
l1 code: 64KBytes
level 2: 256KBytes
level 3:

Ive probably given you stuff you dont need lol thanks for the help

Cheers. JoN.

help me im stupid. :

There ya go...just as I suspected!

How long have you been running it like that?

You have an Athlon XP 2000+ & it should be running at 1667MHz (12.5 x 133MHz), but you have the FSB set at 100MHz. Now we just have to figure out if there's a jumper on the board that has to be changed, or if it's simply a matter of making a change to a few BIOS settings.

Unfortunatley, CPUZ didn't give the actual make/model of the board...just the chipset. The good thing is you have an nForce2 Ultra 400 which was probably THE best performing chipset for the socket A.

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Do you know the make/model of your board? Have the manual?

If not, here's another program that may help figure out what board you have. Once we figure it out, we can get things setup correctly. Go to the following site & download Everest Home Edition...install it, then run it (should be a desktop icon)...see if it provides the info on the board:

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1072

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IM not sure really...... not sure where the manual is. Sry. Where abouts will it tell me what board i have....if it will.

Thanks JoN.

i got the box its in its a jetway
manual was in with it as well :D

Jetway N2PAP-Ultra

OK, here's a couple of sites you may wanna bookmark:

http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/spec/n2papu.html

http://www.mainboard.cz/mb/jetway/N2PA-UltraN2PAP-Ultra.htm

I just downloaded your manual & will have a look. I'll post back with my recommendations

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cheers jam!!!!

.JoN.

There is a FSB jumper on the motherboard...it's right next to where the main ATX power plug connects to the board. It will be labeled JP8. There should be a cap across the 2 pins. There may be none, or the cap may just be on one pin...make sure it connects both pins. The rest will be done in the BIOS....

In case you're not familiar with how to access the BIOS, simply tap the DEL key as soon as you boot & the menu should pop up. Here's a few settings to look for...change them were necessary:

Under Advanced Chipset Features:

AGP Aperture Size - 128M
AGP 8X Support - Enabled
AGP Fast Write Capability - Enabled
System BIOS Cacheable - Disabled
Video RAM Cacheable - Disabled

Under PnP/PCI Configurations:

Reset Configuration Data - Enabled
Resources Controlled By - Auto

Under Miscellaneous Control:

** Current Host Clock is
Host Clock at Next Boot is 133MHz
** Current DRAM Clock is
DRAM Clock at next Boot is 133MHz
CPU Vcore Select - Default
CPU Ratio Select - Default

Once you've made these changes, press the F10 key to "save & exit". You system will then reboot.

Now check CPUZ again to make sure your CPU is running at the correct speed

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hay! nice one! im now instead of 1.25 at
1.67 :D thanks very much for the help........just one question 1.67 Ghz....is that good enough to play games.....realisticly and if not any idea on a new processor.....thanks for the help!

.JoN.

Hmmmmmmm in my family we have 4 comps 1 for each of us....when my dad bought all of them they all had 2.09 Ghz on them......all of theres have.....mine had 1.25! and is now 1.67? any suggestions to whats happened......it did use to be 2.09 would a windows re-installation put all my settings back to default and work please suggest something thanks.

.JoN.

What? Your computer was supposed to be 1.67GHz, not 2.09GHz. The BIOS is where all the CPU clock settings are adjusted, it's entirely separate from Windows....

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BTW, considering the cost of socket A CPUs, it wouldn't be a worthwile investment. Athlon XPs have gone way up in price...a new 2800+ Barton would cost $125-150. And if you have PC2100 RAM, you'd have to replace it with PC3200...not to mention a video card. You'd end up sinking over $300 into an outdated system & it still wouldn't be all that great.

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You better have a look at your other UPDATE post before it gets deleted by the moderator....

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just in case it gets deleted, here's what I wrote:

Very interesting Sabertooth. I just coached jon thru increasing his CPU speed from 1.25GHz (12.5 x 100) to 1.67GHz (12.5 x 133). This was after CPUZ reported his CPU as an Athlon XP Tbred with 12.5x multi...I assumed it was a 2000+, but now that he's saying it should be 2.09 & you posted the above, it's very possible that he has a 2600+ & needs to increase the FSB to 166MHz.

jon, why didn't you tell me that it used to run at 2.09GHz?

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thanks jam errrr im nt quite sure what to adjust though as ive written in the other update post

Do i have to change just these to

Host clock at next boot is 166MHz

DRAM Clock at next Boot is 133 MHz

is that it or is there more......please help really sorry about before!

cheers.JoN.

Im stupid please help!

"DRAM Clock at next Boot is 133 MHz"

Well, that depends on what kinda RAM you have. For best performance, both the CPU & RAM should run at the same speed, 166MHz in your case. But if you only have PC2100 RAM, it's not gonna run at 166MHz. If it's running at 133MHz by default, chances are you have PC2100. You really should have PC2700, or better yet, PC3200. But even if you had PC3200 (which runs at 200MHz by default), you should clock it at 166MHz to match your CPU.

Run CPUZ again & click the Memory tab...FSB:DRAM should be at 1:1, but in your case, it's probably 5:4. Then click the SPD tab & see what it says for Max Bandwidth. If it says PC2100 (133MHz), you have the wrong RAM for your configuration. PC2100 will hold your system back from running it's best.

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i went on FSB thats 3:4 also i have a
PC2700 (166 MHz)

that help?

Im stupid please help!

If you're sure you have PC2700 & it's is running at 166MHz, a 3:4 ratio means your CPU is still running at 133MHz

Make sure your BIOS is set to:

** Current Host Clock is
Host Clock at Next Boot is 166MHz
** Current DRAM Clock is
DRAM Clock at next Boot is 166MHz

And be sure to press the F10 key to save your settings.

Double check CPUZ again. CPU should be called a 2600+ Athlon XP @ 2083 MHz (12.5 x 166MHz). CPU:DRAM ratio should be 1:1. PC2700 RAM should be clocked at 166MHz.

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thanks im at 2.09 GHz now! sorry abou the screw up but a big thankyou for helping me out!

.JoN.

Im stupid please help!

LOL! Probably more of a struggle than it had to be, but the final outcome is what matters. Congratulations! Now all you need is a better gaming card & you'll be all set.

Good luck & Happy New Year!

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