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Im a first time comp builder and Im goin to try to build a computer made for gaming music and other stuff along those lines.
So far I have these parts in mind
Bare Bone
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856101112Does this include a intel chip? Or does that info just mean which one it will take?
Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145525Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822145088What Graphics card will I need that will be compatable with this to be able to play newer games?
Such as burning Crusades city of villains and suchWhat other stuff will I need for the computer?

Since it appears you wanna build a gaming system, you might wanna consider AMD Athlon64 instead. But if you're gonna build an Intel system, get a motherboard that's based on an Intel chipset, not ATI.
The barebones that you chose is just the case, ATI motherboard, & power supply...& I highly doubt the power supply is a good one. There is no CPU included...that will have to be bought separately.
The RAM you chose is OK. I'm not all that sure about the HDD. The Deskstar used to be known as the "deathstar" because so many of them died an early death...lol.
I think you should do some more research. Give us an idea of how much you're willing to spend & what games you wanna play.

Hey Im really a newb I know how to connect the wires but thats about it
Is AMD really a much better gaming system?And Im willing to spend Near $1000
The Only reason Im not buying a whole computer is because Im only 14 and my mom wont let me get a new one. So I told here I could build one, She Agreed because she thought it would be a good experience for me

take a Nvidia Geforce 6200 256MB PCI-E for 60$ US M.S.R.P
P4 D - 2.66GHz
1024MB DDR2 RAM
ASUS A8N-SLI Motherboard
Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce 6800 Ultra 256MB PCI-E
Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB

It was until Intel came out with Core 2 Duo which pretty much beats the current AMD processors hands down in 3/4 of the test.
Get an Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 processor., Intel (LGA 775) 965 chipset, 2 gigs of DDR2 800 ram, 320 gig SATA II 7200 8mb or 16mb cahce hard drive, an Nvidia 7600 along with a ATX 2.0.1 power supply.
All of this should run you around the 700-800 dollar mark.
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ OC 2.7ghz
2GB Dual Channel DDR 3200
Nvidia 7900GT
SATA II 2x 200gig 7200rpm 16mb cache RAID-0
Gigabyte Nforce 4 SLI

Hitachi's are fine drives. I've built numerous PC's with them over the last few years. The "Deathstar" days are behind them. Seagate are good as well, and represent the pinnacle in reliability, but Hitachi is so close in RMA rates, they might as well be equal.
"Is AMD really a much better gaming system?"
Currently, yes. Until the Core Duo's become available (we probably can't get our hands on the until late Q3/early Q4 as Dell will buy them all up), both AMD single and dual core processors are significantly better gaming CPU's than Intels for the money.
Best bets are the Athlon 64 3700 San Diego for $109, and if you want dual core, the Athlon 64 X2 4400 for about $250.
What video card? I sure as heck wouldn't do a 6200. It's not powerful enough now to play many games that well, including FEAR and Oblivion.
I would look closely at the 7600GT, the 7900GT, and the ATI X1800XT. Of those, I think the 7900GT is probably the best bet for price, performance, and longevity, although you can't expect graphics cards to last but so long these days as better, faster ones come out so quickly.
"I told here I could build one, She Agreed because she thought it would be a good experience for me"
It is a valuable learning experience! I started building PC's in 1997, and I'm now a network engineer. I still build my own computer because I enjoy doing it.
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"It was until Intel came out with Core 2 Duo which pretty much beats the current AMD processors hands down in 3/4 of the test."
Try EVERY test. Core 2 Duo's are bad to the bone.
The issue is availability. Don't expect it them to be available to people like us until Q3/early Q4. Large system builders like Dell and HP are going to buy the vast majority of the initial ones up.
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"Try EVERY test. Core 2 Duo's are bad to the bone."
Well you are talking in one area Core 2 Duos don't fair as well in 64bit mode or in some cases nearly as well as they do in 32bit mode. That's where AMD 64 processors gain 10 and in some cases 15% more ground in 64bit mode on the Core 2 Duo. So the lead shrinks in that area, thus is why I said 3/4 of the time.
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ OC 2.7ghz
2GB Dual Channel DDR 3200
Nvidia 7900GT
SATA II 2x 200gig 7200rpm 16mb cache RAID-0
Gigabyte Nforce 4 SLI

You guys are being very helpfull thanks a lot.
However,
"Get an Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 processor"If these are so good then yes I would want to get it but is it out or not?
If so what sight can I go on to get it or what store would have
if its not out what would be the next best thing?

Oh ya and is there anything I can salvage from my old computer?
Its a compaq presario 5000
heres the infoDuron-900 CPU, 128MB of SDRAM, 64KB L2 cache, Windows Me, 40GB hard drive, 16X DVD-ROM drive, 12X/4X/32X CD-RW drive, Compaq NVidia GeForce2 MX graphics card with 32MB of SDRAM,

40 gig hard drive can be used but a sata 1 would be better. The DVD-Rom can be used as a second drive but everything elses is Toast!
TJ297 All Prices are in Auzzie Dollars =D
AMD 3800+
2 Gig RAM
Nvidia 7800GT
Thermaltake 430w PSU
Antec LAN-boy Case
Onboard Sound WOOOOT
Surprisingly not bad :p

"If these are so good then yes I would want to get it but is it out or not?"
Like I said, you probably won't be able to get your hands on one until late Q3/early Q4. If you want to wait that long, that's your call.
"if its not out what would be the next best thing?"
Athlon 64 X2's. The X2 4400 would be the most powerful processor you can get for a reasonable price ($250). However, remember that most games don't take advantage of dual core today, but they increasingly will tomorrow. Still, you may want to consider the Athlon 64 3700 San Diego for $109. Personally, I'd try to get the X2 4400 between those two, but your call.
If your budget only allows you either the 7900GT video card OR the X2 4400, you'd be much better off with a better video card. There's a tendency for people to put way too much priority on the CPU. Graphics cards have far more effect on game performance.
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Some interesting about the Core 2 Duo and that is when running single threaded apps the cpu disables one part of the multi-threaded cache and uses the cpu like a single core.
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ OC 2.7ghz
2GB Dual Channel DDR 3200
Nvidia 7900GT
SATA II 2x 200gig 7200rpm 16mb cache RAID-0
Gigabyte Nforce 4 SLI

ewwwww both of you
you need a P4-3
1 gig ram OK
Asus Sli motherboard (Ai Lifestyle gaming) that supports pci express
ATI Radeon x300 se Hypermemory 512MB PCI-E
A good video card like this with 512MB of onboard memory! WOW!! Just what we need for top end games! RIGHT?
Now this setup will run BF2 great on medium, with 50-60 FPS! lol
With a geforce 6600gt (only 128MB) or an ATI x800(256MB) you'll get low frame rates on these settings, meaning game play will freeze, lag and be choppy.Video Memory is logical isn't it? The more the merrier! The better the graphics! The faster the gameplay! lol
P4 D - 2.66GHz
1024MB DDR2 RAM
ASUS A8N-SLI Motherboard
Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce 6800 Ultra 256MB PCI-E
Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB

I don't even know what you're trying to say, but I'm pretty sure it's not helpful.
He doesn't need an SLI motherboard, and there are better SLI boards that cost less than that Asus.
"ummmm lol sorry whats Q3 Q4"
Third/fourth quarter of the year. Think somewhere late in September or October.
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Ok So theres two things im going to want for my computer it has to be intel compatable so I can get the core2 Duo. And it has to be vista compatable
So far this is what I have
Hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136033Mother board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131028I need to find a good proccesor that is under $200

AMD processor based computers run everything an Intel processor based computers.
Both companies make processors completely compatible with Windows Vista.
What I'm saying is don't discount AMD because you think there are compatibility issues.
If you want to wait for the Core 2 Duo, hey, whatever floats your boat. Expect late Sept./October before you're gonna be able to get one.
If you want the PC built now, your best value is without a doubt AMD.
"How many squirrels had to die to make you look fly?!"

"ATI Radeon x300 se Hypermemory 512MB PCI-E
A good video card like this with 512MB of onboard memory! WOW!! Just what we need for top end games!"Talon,
Are you being sarcastic or are you that clueless when it comes to video cards? The X300SE is only marginally better than onboard video & is not a good gaming card. It wouldn't matter if it had 1024MB memory...the "geforce 6600gt (only 128MB) or an ATI x800(256MB)" will kick the crap out of it!

DFI Infinity NForce4 Ultra is a good motherboard that's not expensive (under $90).
For a graphics card...
"I would look closely at the 7600GT, the 7900GT, and the ATI X1800XT."
Take care of the graphics card first before getting a nicer processor, as I stated before.
"How many squirrels had to die to make you look fly?!"

Ok so here we go I think Im starting to get everything now
heres what I got
Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145018Hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136033Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103547Graphics
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150139And Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131540Now what type of case, fan, and power supply should I have?

XMS is a rip off, and you should have two sticks anyway for dual channel...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146883
Or better yet, go ahead and get 2GB's...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227066
Raptors are not cost effective, and the performance increase in games is marginal. Besides, these seagate drives nearly meet their performance. Why that hard drive when you can get one >4x more capacity at about half the price?!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148140
4200 x2 only has 512K per core. Get one with 1M per core...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103546
(www.zipzoomfly.com has it for $15 less)
Better deal on a video card...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130032
You don't need to spend $150 on an SLI mobo unless you want to overclock like mad...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136164
If you want to spend $150, go with the DFI LanParty motherboard.
Power supply...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817153029
There's a combo deal on a Thermaltake case with that PSU, but whatever you want on a case. Just make sure it's ATX with a few places for case fans. Fill those spots up with case fans. Retail boxed CPU comes with it's own heatsink and fan.
Don't forget a DVD burner (Lite On $40), Floppy drive for emergencies or flashing BIOS, etc. ($12), an OS if you don't have one already ($90 for XP Home), and that should cover it...
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"Like I said, you probably won't be able to get your hands on one until late Q3/early Q4. If you want to wait that long, that's your call."
Are we all on the same internet? AFAIK you can already get these CPUs right now (a few etailers have 'em in stock) especially the entry level E6300 & E6400, the kicker it at all is - you may have to pay about $40.00 (after shipping) over Intel's announced prices per processor.

Ok I basicly changed everything I had based on Herophyco
Graphics Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150141Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146883Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148140Power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817153029MotherBoard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136157I kept the processor the same
Would I need a bigger Power supply?
I really need help finding fan, power supply and case. Because I dont really know anything about themAnd would this computer be vista capable?

"Are we all on the same internet?"
I haven't seen them from any reputable vendor, but by all means share! :-)
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You don't need as big an external as backup as what you have for an internal hard drive since backup software will compress the data. Would suggest using NTBackup. You can install it using your XP home CD.
It's under VALUEADD\MSFT\NTBACKUP on the CD.
Good deal on one...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?ref=39&loc=01&categoryid=pcmcat33200050002&id=1134698030419&skuid=7643053&type=product&ref=&loc=
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Core 2 Duo E6300 "In Stock" ATM per Pricegrabber from the following etailers:
0. xPCgear.com
1. E World Sale
2. mwave
3. SpaceCenter Systems
4. Club IT
5. ZipZoomfly
Note: The E6400 on the other hand, is only listed as "In Stock" with the first four sellers from above.

IntelĀ® Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe Processor 1.86GHz, 1066FSB, LGA775, 2MB Cache Retail ***Free Shipping***
Pre-Order Only. Delivery Date: August 7th, 2006So no guarantee on zipzoomfly...
SpaceCenter Systems I'd NEVER order from again after a fiasco I had with them...
mwave shows it in stock. So hey, if they can fill the order no reason not to go Core 2 Duo!
Many reputable hardware sites indicated it would be very hard to get your hands on them, so absolutely don't wait!
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ok I guess Im goin back to Intel :P God this Might take longer then I thought
Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150141Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817165004Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144414Mother Board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127004Processor
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA22887Its late Im tired im hitin the hey tell me if I made a compatability mistake.
or if its not vista compatable

There's NO WAY that PSU is a true 630W. Go back to the thermaltake I recommended earlier!
Go with the 7900GT! The video card is far more important than the processor for gaming.
Why are you jipping yourself on the hard drive? The 320gig drive I referenced to you before is faster, more reliable, and twice the capacity for less than double the price.
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why buy such a processor? Its useless for gaming! sorry but its just a waste of money! go with AMD. Video card is fine if on a budget, there's really no need for a 7900GT unless youre a hardcore gamer. Motherboard, Abit is horrendous! For that kind of money, even less probably, you could buy an ASUS! And don't buy that power supply! That is an el-cheapo power supply. A normal 630W would cost $200 not $28!!! Bigger is not neccessarily better! With a generic power supply like that you could be putting your whole system at risk. Go with a normal case and a 400W power supply included like from Thermaltake.
Hard disk is also barely adequate. sorry, we're not in kansas anymore, :D))pardon the bad pun. 120gig just doesnt cut it in 2006. maybe in 2003....
Be careful.P4 D - 2.66GHz
1024MB DDR2 RAM
ASUS A8N-SLI Motherboard
Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce 6800 Ultra 256MB PCI-E
Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB

"why buy such a processor? Its useless for gaming! sorry but its just a waste of money! go with AMD."
Talon, go look at benchmarks of the Core 2 Duo! That processor is under $200, and gives even the FX-62 a run for it's money.
I don't mean to keep nailing you, but stop trying to help people when you clearly are not up to speed on this stuff. It doesn't do any good, and it makes me feel bad when I have to tear your argument to shreds. :-/
"Video card is fine if on a budget, there's really no need for a 7900GT unless youre a hardcore gamer."
I wouldn't say I'm a hardcore gamer, and I thoroughly enjoy my 7800GT. While I don't advocate spending $300+ on a video card, the fact is the video card is far more important for game play than the processor.
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Spend all your money on a screen (20" +), it's the only thing that won't be half the price in 3 days.
+Gigabyte m/b
Seagate HDD (SATA)
Crucial RAM (1GIG)
AMD 64 3500+ (or higher)
nVidia 7600GT or 7900GT
Antec Case
450W PSUSorted

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