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Name: IRMan
Date: April 11, 2006 at 16:23:42 Pacific
Subject: build new pc OS: 2000 sp2 pro/vistaCPU/Ram: ??Model/Manufacturer: hb |
Comment: with the $1200-2000 my partener agreed to let me spend, I need to build a new home office computer. Thing is, I want to make it as great a gaming / video editing pc as I can afford. So...here I am asking for all the advice I can get. What would it look like if you built the system, w/monitor or wo/monitor, for the above price? kgb
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Response Number 1
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Name: IRMan
Date: April 11, 2006 at 16:49:12 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)BTW i didn't mention. I plan on installing vista ASAP. So it needs to meet ms recommendations for vista. kgb
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Response Number 2
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Name: Username
Date: April 11, 2006 at 17:11:48 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)Okay so you want to meet the vista requirements.Accroding to microsft website they don't know the exact requirements but say it will be something like this:Atleast 512mb of ram,a dedicated video card,directx9 support and a good modern pentium or amd.Also if you live in the usa there are lots of places to buy.If you live in canada try pccyber or cas-tech.Apparently at cas-tech they have a geforce 6600gt for 189$ which is good for gaming.So i guess for you would want a cpu for multi puposes so i think a pentium would be good to get.Besides with 1200$ you can get a preety damn good computer.so it's all up to you.
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Response Number 4
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Name: IRMan
Date: April 11, 2006 at 17:31:23 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)I want to get a little above the min reqs. Seems graphics cards are going to need a lot of memory, WDDM, shader and monitors will be taxed too. I was leaning toward AMD because the Intels seem to run hotter right now. Thanks for the encouraging words. I just want to get the most for my $1200-2000. kgb
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Response Number 5
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Name: Username
Date: April 11, 2006 at 18:02:21 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)Ya i guess i would go for amd to better for gaming and besides is only slightly behind pentium right now in multi purposes.I might be able to help you more if you tell me how much you are willing to spend on the cpu and if its in canadian,american dollars,euros or pounds.
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Response Number 6
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Name: Sabertooth
Date: April 11, 2006 at 19:20:08 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)Motherboard: DFI NF4-Ultra Processor: Cheapest Opteron (144 or 146) Power Supply: At least 500W/PFC Active Antec, FSP, or PCPowerCooling with solid rail voltages Video-Card: 7900GT
Sound-Card: (Try Onboard first) Memory: Kingston or Mushkin or another good brand (at least 1GB)
Thermal Compound: Maybe
Optical Drives: NEC DL DVD Writer Monitor: Samsung LCD (20")
Computer Case: Source locally
Hard drive: 300GB SATA (seagate)
How does the above sound ?
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Response Number 7
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Name: heroedge
Date: April 11, 2006 at 19:30:55 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)Windows Vista + Great Gaming Machine = $1200? No way! $2000 maybe. What is a "great gaming pc"? IMO that would mean something you could crank up the res and still get great FPS in any of the latest games. Thats not going to happen with a 6600GT. Play F.E.A.R. with a 6600GT and see what settings you have to play it with.
AMD is the best avenue for gaming/video editing and it can still handle the office stuff about as good as Intel. AND they are priced better.
512mb isn't going to do much either. Those are the minimum known requirements for Windows Vista. And frankly, its not good enough for gaming.
I think with what you're asking is for is a minimum of a multi core like the AMD 4400 Toledo .
DFI motherboard SLI
7900GT video card
WD Raptor 10,000 RPM
RAID 0 would be a plus
Backup Storage Drive.
At least 1gb RAM 2gb MUCH better.
19" high res, 8ms or less, 700:1 Monitor For all of this you're over or near the $2K mark. The cheaper side of this would be to to sacrifice something in your "great gaming/video editing pc" and go with something like.
Windows XP Pro
DFI SLI Mobo
AMD 64 3700+ San Diego
7900GT
7200 RPM HDD
1gb RAM
19" high res, 8ms or less, 700:1 Monitor With all of this, you've still got a good machine around the $1500.00 mark. Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI
AMD Athlon 64 FX-55
Corsair 512X4 2048mb
2X WD Raptor 74gb 10K
2X 256 6800 GT
Raid-0
WinXP Pro X64
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Response Number 9
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Name: IRMan
Date: April 11, 2006 at 20:15:47 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)Wow! Thanks Sabertooth & heroedge. I have heard conflicting statements about the dual cores. Are they good for gaming or not? I was leaning toward 64 bit dual core. Or maybe I should go single core now and upgrade to dual later when they are cheaper and have more apps? You both recommend the 7900GT. Any particular manufacture or specs I should look for? kgb
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Response Number 10
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Name: Sabertooth
Date: April 11, 2006 at 21:58:01 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)If you are going for gaming, you definitely want a single core CPU, it is not a level playing field right now for the dual cores when it comes to games. Biostar has the cheapest card, but BFG or XFX is who I'll go for because of warranty and how much the card goes for $300+
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Response Number 11
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Name: heroedge
Date: April 11, 2006 at 23:04:52 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)"Or maybe I should go single core now and upgrade to dual later when they are cheaper and have more apps?"
YEP! Thats the best strategy. Single Core all the way! AMD 64 3700+ San Diego.
I listed and I think Saber listed the dual core because you said, "great a gaming / video editing pc". So for video editing and multi-tasking, dual core would be the choice. However a single core can get it done just fine.
The 7900GT is the best gaming card for the money right now if you want full throttle graphics. You can go cheaper but you'll need to turn down the "eye candy".
For graphic cards, I also like BFG and XFX. However, I like eVGA even more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130282
Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI
AMD Athlon 64 FX-55
Corsair 512X4 2048mb
2X WD Raptor 74gb 10K
2X 256 6800 GT
Raid-0
WinXP Pro X64
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Response Number 13
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Name: heroedge
Date: April 12, 2006 at 00:38:37 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)Duh! My bad..LOL! Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI
AMD Athlon 64 FX-55
Corsair 512X4 2048mb
2X WD Raptor 74gb 10K
2X 256 6800 GT
Raid-0
WinXP Pro X64
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Response Number 14
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Name: IRMan
Date: April 12, 2006 at 06:39:50 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)Thanks again guys. Now is there any consideration to the mobo when I am thinking of sinlge core now and dual later? Also, SATA II, is it worth it? kgb
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Response Number 15
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Name: Sabertooth
Date: April 12, 2006 at 08:14:06 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)The truth is, some SATA HDD's are faster than PATA's and vice versa and for the most part the increasing transition to the SATA interface is more of a 'technology cost' industry driven change than performance, hence the slow paced consumer migration to the newer interface. HDD's will always be the bottleneck in PC's for years to come (I would love to eat my words on that) and let's not forget that a faster bus or different interface does not automatically guarantee faster transfer rates, so I just simply advise folks to get the fastest HDD within their budget paramemters. A lot of times also, individual prerogative is what steers consumer to the HDD that they eventually end up with, some people have "absolute zero tolerance" for noise and are even willing to sacrifice performance for it, for some others it is a "brand", warranty or case clutter issue and to some it's simply a math ($0.00/GB) choice. (I'm a Seagate fan) As you decide what to get, you'll notice one thing. Virtually all of the current 7200 RPM SATA & PATA drives within a catergory offer similar benefits, including performance and if you end up with a better SATA II drive, it's not going to be simply because it was overly faster than its PATA counterpart. When Google isn't your best pal
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Response Number 16
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Name: heroedge
Date: April 12, 2006 at 09:15:23 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)Wow some good info there Saber. Look at the specs on your motherboard. Make sure it has what you need in the future or you'll need to upgrade that too. AMD 64, Dual Core, SATA II, SATA, IDE, PCI-E, etc, etc.... Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI
AMD Athlon 64 FX-55
Corsair 512X4 2048mb
2X WD Raptor 74gb 10K
2X 256 6800 GT
Raid-0
WinXP Pro X64
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Response Number 17
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Name: Dragon306
Date: April 17, 2006 at 08:02:37 Pacific
Subject: build new pc |
Reply: (edit)dual core 64-bit cpu, 7900GT (x2 in SLI is my suggestion) HP Vectra VL400
1.0ghz Pentium 3
512mb PC133 SDRAM
120gb 7200rpm 8mb cache WD1200JB hard drive
ATI Radeon 9200 128mb AGP video card
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