Best PC Game HardWare or Propietary

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February 17, 2009 at 08:32:06
Specs: Windows XP Pro,
Looking at either building an awesome PC Gaming system or buying a factory made system and wanted some opinions...
I prefer AMD CPU's as IMO they seem a bit more hardcore as opposed to Intel CPU's, such as for O/C and such and I also prefer ASUS MB's and NVidia VC's.
I want this PC Gaming system to run games such as Assassin's Creed, Mafia II, Call of Duty: World at War, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare and Grand Theft Auto IV to name just a few heavy PC system requirement games.
Thank you.

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#1
February 17, 2009 at 11:06:16
I'm an AMD guy myself but Intel is currently putting out the best CPUs. They perform better, overclock better & of course, cost more.

If you go with AMD, you'll have the choice between X2 dual, X3 triple or X4 quad core CPUs. Personally, I'm not convinced that the quad is a necessity just yet, but people are buying them up. IMO, you can't go wrong with the new X2 7750 Black Edition. It's based on the new KUMA core which is basically an X4 Phenom with 2 cores disabled. It runs at 2.7GHz out of the box, has L3 cache & can take full advantage of DDR2-1066 RAM (other X2's have no L3 & support DDR2-800). It's a decent overclocker & the multiplier is fully unlocked. Newegg has them for under $70.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

I suggest a board based on the AMD 780G/SB700 combo but if you're willing to spend more, go for the 790FX/SB750.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

For RAM, get 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2-1066.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Video card choice is dependent on your needs & how much you're willing to spend, but don't rule out ATI.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

And make sure to get a decent power supply, preferrably one with a single high amperage +12v rail rather than multiple +12v rails of approx 18A each.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#2
February 17, 2009 at 12:03:49
What Intel CPU's would be best then?

Also what would be the best case?

Can I still use my zipdrive and 3.5" floppy drive if I decide to keep them, I know they are outdated, but I guess I am just used to them?

I presume that I shouldn't have any problems with most any of the new software out there with one of these suggested setups, should I still be able to play most of the old pc games as well including some based on Windows 95/98?

Thank you.


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#3
February 17, 2009 at 14:06:09
"What Intel CPU's would be best then?"

It all depends on how much you're willing to spend.

"Also what would be the best case?"

Cases are personal preference. If you pick one out I can give you my opinion, but I try to refrain from recommending any.

"Can I still use my zipdrive and 3.5" floppy drive if I decide to keep them"

It depends on the motherboard. The majority only have one IDE/PATA channel & many are coming without the floppy controller.

"should I still be able to play most of the old pc games as well including some based on Windows 95/98?"

You *should* be able to play your old games in compatibility mode. Are you planning to run Vista or XP?


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#4
February 17, 2009 at 14:28:28
Have you checked out the Gaming PC websites? I ordered my PC from Xtreme Power Computers, it's amazing and it comes with a 2 year warranty. You should check them out. I paid about 2,400 bux but it is more than worth it. Here are the specs of the one I bought.

Thermaltake Armor+ MX
ASUS P6T X58 Motherboard
ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 HD Audio
ASUS PCIe GeForce 9800GTX+
ASUS CPU Heatsink & Fan
Intel Core i7 2.66GHz
4 GB DDR3 1333 RAM
500GB SATA 7,200 RPM HDD RAID 0
55-in-1 Card Reader w/ Flip-up LCD
Blu-RAY Player / DVD Burner
9 USB 2.0 Ports
2 eSATA Ports
1 Fire-Wire Port
Gbit LAN
750 Watt SLI/CrossFire Power Supply
Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit


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#5
February 17, 2009 at 14:50:01
I will be using WinXP Pro SP3 as I do not care for Windows Vista...
Okay here is a prototype list that I came up with somewhat based on your recommendations; please feel free to critique:

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

ASUS P5N64 WS PRO WiFi LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

or

ASUS M4A79 Deluxe AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard – Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

or

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Crucial Ballistix 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL3KIT25664TG1608 – OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

or

Crucial Ballistix 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL3KIT25664TR1608 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

EVGA 01G-P3-1281-AR GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

or

XFX GX285NZDFF GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card – Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

ASUS VH222H Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

I will have to check out some of the Gaming PC builders as well then, what are some of the better ones?



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#6
February 17, 2009 at 19:58:44
Since you like to waste money, go all out & build a Core i7 system with an X58 motherboard & 6GB triple channel DDR3 RAM.

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#7
February 17, 2009 at 21:55:16
Never said anything about liking to waste money which which would seem a bit ridiculous anyway and it is a prototype list, which part or parts do you believe to be a waste of money and why?

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#8
February 18, 2009 at 06:00:19
"which part or parts do you believe to be a waste of money and why?"

$430 for a motherboard that gets less than stellar reviews? Are you kidding me? You don't think that's a bit over the top?

Can you tell me what the advantage of running DDR3 with a Core 2 Duo is over running DDR2?

And since you're going all out on everything else, why the E8400??

For that kind of money, build a Core i7 system.



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#9
February 18, 2009 at 09:06:31
Yeah right, well anyway I will reconsider this prototype list and see if I can downgrade some without losing out on performance or power.
Thank you for playing.

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#10
February 18, 2009 at 09:51:01
"Thank you for playing"

Who's "playing"? I'm just pointing out problems with the configuration of your "prototype". And you didn't address my questions/comments.


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#11
February 18, 2009 at 09:59:09
Yes I did, as I said that I would reconsider the prototype list and that is also why I had more than 1 selection hence the 'or' between the 2 selections just for this sort of reason.
Good day to you.

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#12
February 18, 2009 at 10:25:20
"Yes I did"

Really? You didn't state the advantage to pairing up a Core 2 Duo with DDR3? There must be a reason why you feel this combo makes sense?

You also didn't say why you'd consider a $430 board that only gets a 45% customer rating?

Nor did you state why you're not considering a Core i7 system?


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#13
February 18, 2009 at 10:46:23
No, actually when I put the prototype list together I took some of the information from the suggestions and then from there looked for the most powerful (unfortunately which are also usually the most expensive) items that I could locate and went from there knowing that I would downgrade the list, but also with the knowledge that I had made every attempt at building the absolute best machine possible at the time.
That is also why I stated that I needed to reconsider the prototype list in order to adjust some of the selections is all so the the questions are somewhat irrelevant seeing that I didn't necessarily intend to purchase those exact items, but was only using them as a starting point to gauge from.
Regards.

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#14
February 18, 2009 at 15:20:33
There was a new article in extreem tech that focuses on about a $2000 build for best bang for the buck in that range. They compair a couple AMD builds and an Intel i7 based PC. Just published February 18, 2009...

http://www.extremetech.com/article2...


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#15
February 18, 2009 at 15:30:03
Thanks I will check that out.

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