Name: dsarosh Date: January 6, 2007 at 07:59:30 Pacific Subject: Another gpu failing? OS: WinXP SP2 CPU/Ram: 2.53Gz P4, 1 GB, 6800XT Model/Manufacturer: Assembled.
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Hi Pals, Today morning while using my comp the power failed, and I couldnt get back in time to turn my computer off before the ups timed out. So what happened was that my ups backup went off when my computer was turning off as a result of which the power supply tomy computer was cut when it was shutting down.
When the electricity supply returned I restarted my computer and it was fine. Then I turned it off to head out in the evening.
I returned in the evening and turned on the comp and there was the boxes on the screen again. These are the same kink of boxes that are typical of a failig gpu.
What I did was uninstall the drivers from control panel and when it asked me to restart the computer I selected "no" and isntead shut down the computr and turned off the power supply. Then I removed the dvi-agp adaper from one socket of my agp to the other socket, and restarted the computer and everythingis fine now.
I have no idea why I got those boxes on my screen. Is it another failing gup I have here?
Yes, it is definitely your video card for the what is it now...4th time? Because that's how bad your video card karma is.
"Enough, enough bowing down to disillusion! Hats off & applause to rogues & evolution! The ripple effect is too good not to mention. If you’re not affected, you’re not paying attention!"
How many of those cards have gone bad that I'm aware of? 1 - I killed the Geforce2 MX with Arctic Silver epoxy. All previous cards I sold to friends of mine or put them in older systems I have. I overclocked every single one of them, even soft modding the 9800 Pro to XT. The only one that died, I killed it doing something incredibly stupid.
Now how could it be that I've had these kinds of results compared to dsarosh? Unless you think it's luck (hard to believe at this point), it must be that I do something differently. One is I only use high quality PSU units, along with all other hardware. "Enough, enough bowing down to disillusion! Hats off & applause to rogues & evolution! The ripple effect is too good not to mention. If you’re not affected, you’re not paying attention!"
Hmmmmm, I've had a similar run on video cards over the past 10 or so years, although not as high end. I've only had one card go bad on me & that was an Asus Ti4200. I RMA'd it & they sent me a Ti4800SE as a replacement, free of charge. I had a Sapphire 9600XT for a short time & although it worked fine, the fan was excessively loud. I contacted Sapphire & the fan issue was something that they were aware of. I RMA'd the 9600XT & was given the 9800Pro as a replacement, also free of charge. Here's my list:
I had one cheap generic PSU blow on me several years ago...luckily it didn't take any hardware out with it when it died. But ever since that close call, I've made sure to use decent quality PSUs on all my builds.
"I RMA'd it & they sent me a Ti4800SE as a replacement, free of charge."
That's something else you do differently - follow RMA processes. :-)
"Enough, enough bowing down to disillusion! Hats off & applause to rogues & evolution! The ripple effect is too good not to mention. If you’re not affected, you’re not paying attention!"
Hi Dudes, But when I removed the dvi-vga adapter from one socket and put it into the other socket everything is working fine again.
I have two dvi output ports at the back of my card, but no vga ports. I had connected my mointor through the adapter to the dvi port on the left. The problem here could be the weight of the adapter and the power cable pulling down on the port of the vedio card and maybe it may have made the port a bit loose.
I think it is best for me to go back to the fx5200, or to get a new mb with a decent onboard graphics card. These new graphics card require too much power and a very good power supply. And the combination of a good quality psu+powerful graphics card is going to be very expensive in the future.
Leadtek Geforce 7600gt AGP o/c 590/1700 MSI Geforce 6600gt AGP o/c 550/1100 ATI Radeon 9500 mod 9700 o/c 369/600 (Enermax 325 watt power supply / Zalman VF700 AS5) ============================================ (Delta 135 watt power supply (1997)/ stock cooling) Asus Geforce FX 5200 o/c 275/515 Apollo Radeon 8500LE 32mb stock (Bad RAM & Fan) Voodoo 5 5500 PCI o/c 183/183 Voodoo 3 2000 PCI o/c 166/166 Voodoo 1 4mb (diamond) stock
The only card gone bad was the 8500LE I bought from a website. I paid for $35 for that 8500LE with free shipping and the RAM gone bad in 2 days of usuage. 1 week later the fan fail and that is the worst card purchase I ever bought. I try to RMA back to Apollo and they refuse my RMA. That is the only time I have problems with RMA and bad video card.
TMP-Man
Asus P5P800-SE PAT P4 506 @ 4009Mhz 1.3625v Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 1700RPM 92MM + AS5 2GB OCZ 2-3-2-5 DDR400 120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD Leadtek 7600 AGP 590/1600 VF700 ALCU AS5
Sold all of them but three - the 6800NU, Radeon 7000 Series & the Mach64 from ATI.
I am lucky, I have not personally lost a PSU completely but I have a RaidMax PSU that I removed from a system to avoid a potential fire hazard - the sucker burnt out both red (+5v) adaptor lead wire on its floppy connectors. I still use it from time to time to bench test, I just won't let it power anything permanently.
Hi Pals, Do you think the reliability of gpus has gone down over the years? Or is it just that becasue the sales of gpus have incresed so much, the possibility of having defective gpus has gone up?
My first agp card was trident 4mb (7850 something). I used this card for 5 years without a single worry. Then i used an mx 440se for about 3 years and an fx5200 also for 2 years withou absolutely no problem at all.
Then you know what happened with the refurbished 6600gt.
Rigt now too my computer is working fine. I dont have any graphical corruption or anything. I just finished playing the game 'company of heroes" and there are no problems at all even after 2+ hours of continuous gamine.
I connected my monitor to the second dvi port, and everything is fine now. Do you think one of the dvi ports has got spoilt? Or do you think the combined weight of the minotor cable and the dvi-vga adapeter is pullingg down on the rear of the graphics card and damaging the dvi port?
I think it's amazing you're not reading between the lines...oh the heck with it...that you somehow can't understand we're explicitly telling you your choices in PSU's causes much of your grief.
"Enough, enough bowing down to disillusion! Hats off & applause to rogues & evolution! The ripple effect is too good not to mention. If you’re not affected, you’re not paying attention!"
Put it this way if your going to have a nice graphics card then you better put in a nice psu along with it or you're just asking for trouble in all areas in regards to power failures and power shortages.
"I dont read 'between' the lines pal, i just read the lines."
You don't even do that.
"So are you now saying that my psu has blown up one of the dvi ports on the gpu, and left everything else still totally functional?"
You said so yourself - this happened after a power fluctuation. And had you actually read the hundreds of posts in other threads, you'd have seen I know I said it numerous times alone that bad PSU's will kill or damage components far more often when power cuts out unexpectedly, etc. And what do you know, look what happened!
I'm sure this is just another coincidence to you, but yet again, look at my track record on video cards as well as the others who posted here. Would you say quality is decreasing based on that, or would you say you're doing something differently than the other people here?
Pretty clear to me you're doing something differently.
"Enough, enough bowing down to disillusion! Hats off & applause to rogues & evolution! The ripple effect is too good not to mention. If you’re not affected, you’re not paying attention!"
So do cheap PSU manufacturers and their resellers...
"Enough, enough bowing down to disillusion! Hats off & applause to rogues & evolution! The ripple effect is too good not to mention. If you’re not affected, you’re not paying attention!"
Hhha, Yea, true about that. It was not actually a power fluctuation, lol, you guys dont read properly at all!!!. The power just failed, and my 600VA ups can barely supply backup power for 1 min. But I was not at my computer so I couldnt shut down my computer immediately. So what happend was that my ups battery switched off when windows was shutting down. There was no fluctuataion of any sort.
I am still not sure what is going on, becasue the card is working fine yet, I just connected the monitor to the second dvi port and everything is running fine now.
Will there atleast be one dx10 card that will run on a decent pus??? Something like the fx5200. The fx 5200 cards had no problems with power supplies, I hope these guys make atleast one such dx10 card, or the gameing days for casual gamers like me are over. Spending Rs.10,000/- on an good quality psu is way too much, when a whole computer can be purchased for about 25,000/-
Yeah, a complete and unexpected loss of power is absolutely NOT a large change in power from one second to the next!
We completely don't understand what total loss of power apparently means. We're that dumb!
"Will there atleast be one dx10 card that will run on a decent pus??? Something like the fx5200. The fx 5200 cards had no problems with power supplies"
You apparently just don't get it.
The FX5200 was a DX9 card purely by technicality. If you actually played a DX9 game and set the game to actually display DX9 effects, it wasn't fast enough to render it at a playable speed. I'm not saying playable to a hard core gamer's tastes; I mean not playable for anyone! In fact, the entire FX line from Nvidia was a disaster, as ATI cards performed far better in DX9. Owners of FX5200's basically had to disable advanced DX9 effects to play the game.
DX10 requires even more power from the GPU. Why would you want yet another card that while the GPU technically can support the graphics functions, it can't render them even remotely at playable speeds?!
All because you don't want to spend money on a PSU that actually works?!
Go buy an XBox 360 or something...
"Enough, enough bowing down to disillusion! Hats off & applause to rogues & evolution! The ripple effect is too good not to mention. If you’re not affected, you’re not paying attention!"
Hi Pals, I used the fx5200, and it was not bad to play games at 800x600 resolution. It was a pretty stable and robust card. Much better than my onboard s3 pro savage graphics chip. I dont like the idea of buying a expensive card any more because its going to be good only for about 6 months. I maybe able to play a couple of games at h ighest settings, but I will have to lower down the settings on the future games anyway.
Anyway, you guys may probably think that I am wasting forum space here, but I connected my monitor back to the left dvi port, and it is working again. I have no idea what is going on. I am not saying that it is not my psu, it could be my psu, but I stil play games for about 2 hours and nothing happens. Today afternoon I put the monitor back to the old port (the port that was causing the screen corruption) and everything is fine again.
Do you think the loss of power supply caused the drivers to get corrupted? But I remember that even the bios screen had those boxes on them.
Power failure is not uncommon here. Infact, I will admit that this has happened several times before. The power has failed and I have not been able to shut down my computer in time for my back ups to last. This has happened before and one of the partitions on my hard disk has a few bad clusters too.
I have connected my 17" crt monitor directly to my ups too, pluse the 6800XT + 2 hard disk drive + 2 cd rom drives, ,so I guess the 600VA ups cant provide backup power for more than 1 min.
If you have power failures often, I would invest in a quality PSU and a better battery back-up. I haven't noticed PSU going out-of-date that fast. That will save you more money in the long run. Although you have heard it before, I will say it again. All I have heard re: the FX5200 is that they are junk.
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