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Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 27, 2007 at 19:59:26 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
OS: windows xp pro
CPU/Ram: 1 gig
Model/Manufacturer: custom
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well my birthday is this sunday and i wanted to know what i should ask for either a 7600 GT or a 7800 GS i cant decied but i know i want it for purely gaming...

i have a ATi Radeon 9600 Pro which i think its a pos now compared to the better stuff out there like the new 8 series ... so the games i wannta run on one of those cards are Graw, Hl2, CSS, Fear, BF2, Guild wars, Call of duty 2 ...ect

how can i tell whats a good card and what makes it what it is for futher reference

my specs are

p4 @ 2.8 Ghz
1024 mb Ram
1.40
2.200 HDD Ide
with a 500 watt psu

i got 1 side case light and 2 cathodes


and i know jam or hero will prolly see this so whats happenin guys :) hope everythings going great this year

P4 2.8Ghz
1Gb ram
160 HDD
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb AGP 8x
300 watt stock PSU

-lost


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Response Number 1
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 27, 2007 at 20:33:58 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

I dunno, dude. You're gonna have to retire that p4 sooner or later. Why put in over $100 for an AGP card when the motherboard, CPU, Fan, and RAM are going to need replacing in the somewhat near future?

Have you put any thought into when you're planning on upgrading the processor?

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Response Number 2
Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 27, 2007 at 20:44:24 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

like idk maybe next year :|, but which card is better and why?


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Response Number 3
Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 27, 2007 at 20:52:17 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

like idk maybe next year :|, but which card is better and why?

these are the extact cards and brands ...

from newegg...

eVGA 256-A8-N506-AX Geforce 7800GS 256MB GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail

Link:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


XFX PVT73AUDE3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X
Video Card - Retail

Link:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


and! if you dont mind is this a good buy for a psu ?

COOLER MASTER eXtreme RP-500-PCAR ATX from factor 12V V2.01 500W Power Supply 110-115V/ 220V-230V Nemko, TUV, cUL, CE, BSMI, FCC, CCC - Retail

Link:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

P4 2.8Ghz
1Gb ram
160 HDD
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb AGP 8x
300 watt stock PSU

-lost


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Response Number 4
Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 27, 2007 at 21:07:33 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

this is bs...

anyways new psu!


APEVIA ATX-CW500WP4 ATX 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, TUV, CE - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

P4 2.8Ghz
1Gb ram
160 HDD
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb AGP 8x
300 watt stock PSU

-lost


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Response Number 5
Name: jackbomb
Date: March 27, 2007 at 21:09:40 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

The 7600GT and 7800GS are pretty much equal. I'd go with the 7800GS:
-bigger and probably more effective heatsink
-For now, it's $5 cheaper
-IMO, e-vga is better than XFX/Pine.
-even thought I said they were equal, the 256-bit memory bus of the 7800GS just may help at higher resolutions.
-higher model number is healthy for the e-penis (if you play by those rules :) )

Yes, that PSU (the Cooler Master) seems sufficient for your system.

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Response Number 6
Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 27, 2007 at 21:27:58 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

thanks ill get he 7800 GS but i still have one question ...some posts on that cooler master psu said it was loud what are the chances that will happen to me and how would i fix that?..buy a new one :\

P4 2.8Ghz
1Gb ram
160 HDD
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb AGP 8x
300 watt stock PSU

-lost


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Response Number 7
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 27, 2007 at 22:01:14 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

I got to say once again I really don't see the point in spending $150 on a video card. WIth your system, especially if your P4 isn't an 800MHz bus variant, your processor will bottleneck either graphics card. If you're gonna go with one, the 7800GS looks like the better deal, but I wouldn't honestly go with either one. I'd recommend more of something like this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Significantly cheaper. Why plop $150 down on a card that your system can't push to its full potential anyway, and you're going to be replacing it in a year to boot?

As for the power supply, I'd look at a Thermaltake instead.

TECH-NO-LOGICAL ROMANCE!

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Response Number 8
Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 27, 2007 at 22:16:55 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

yea i was lookin that up about 2 weeks ago they said that the 7600 GT was better than the X1650 pro but for my system you said it should get this card and i will do so but is this the best card out there or are there better ones to consider on purchasing?


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Response Number 9
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 28, 2007 at 00:55:38 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

The other cards are faster, but at $50 more, and your system can't keep up. It's not a question which card is faster. It's a question of what is the best value for your system.

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Response Number 10
Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 28, 2007 at 06:56:39 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

so whats the difference between the x1650 the x1650 pro II amd the x1650 pro II turbo ...i personally think the turbo ones better but since hero has been a great help i would love to hear ur insight about out of those 3 which will be the one i choose


P4 2.8Ghz
1Gb ram
160 HDD
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb AGP 8x
300 watt stock PSU

-lost


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Response Number 11
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 28, 2007 at 07:35:38 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

I'm not familiar with every manufacturers' variant of the card. I will say I wouldn't pay any big premium between the cards.

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Response Number 12
Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 28, 2007 at 07:40:38 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

so with that card the x1650 pro i should be straight on running Graw at 1024x768 at high settings :| i just want it enjoy able cuz i know i wont be able to make it blistering stream line

P4 2.8Ghz
1Gb ram
160 HDD
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb AGP 8x
300 watt stock PSU

-lost


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Response Number 13
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 28, 2007 at 09:37:49 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

You probably won't be able to do that no matter what video card you get. Your processor is not particularly fast, and you only have 1GB of RAM.

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Hats off & applause to rogues & evolution!
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If you’re not affected, you’re not paying attention!"


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Response Number 14
Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 28, 2007 at 19:04:08 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

does it matter if i get the one u told me to get or the HIS brand with the Turbo cooling :\ i think its the same thing but i already bought a 500 watt psu so now i need to figure out if the $109 X1650 Pro the one u told me to get is either better or worse than the HIS Radeon X01650 Pro II Turbo ..(im sorry im being a pest but i want the best for my old AGP system befor i convert to PCI-E)

P4 2.8Ghz
1Gb ram
160 HDD
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb AGP 8x
300 watt stock PSU

-lost


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Response Number 15
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 28, 2007 at 19:54:51 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

It's probably not gonna matter.

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Hats off & applause to rogues & evolution!
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Response Number 16
Name: TMP-Man
Date: March 28, 2007 at 21:02:28 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

Since your CPU and FSB is going to be bottleneck, then getting a turbo or standard edition of x1650 won't matter much... But I would pick the one with the quietest cooler...

TMP-Man

Asus P5P800 PAT
P4 506 @ 4009Mhz 1.3v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 1700RPM 92MM + AS5
2GB OCZ 2-3-2-5 DDR400
120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD
Leadtek 7600 AGP 590/1600 VF700 ALCU AS5


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Response Number 17
Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 28, 2007 at 21:04:55 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

:( i just want a good AGP for my system so i can play graw :( not too much to ask for right? but the thing is finding one that will work with out holding back any of its potenial

P4 2.8Ghz
1Gb ram
160 HDD
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb AGP 8x
300 watt stock PSU

-lost


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Response Number 18
Name: TMP-Man
Date: March 28, 2007 at 21:07:20 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

The best video card that fits your system would be radeon 9800 pro which you can find it on ebay for a low price...

TMP-Man

Asus P5P800 PAT
P4 506 @ 4009Mhz 1.3v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 1700RPM 92MM + AS5
2GB OCZ 2-3-2-5 DDR400
120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD
Leadtek 7600 AGP 590/1600 VF700 ALCU AS5


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Response Number 19
Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 28, 2007 at 21:08:57 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

are u kidding me :| i have a 9600 pro now :| ur telling me with my system all i can do to upgrade it is a 9800 pro :\ this sucks :| cant upgrade to pci-e till next year :(

P4 2.8Ghz
1Gb ram
160 HDD
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb AGP 8x
300 watt stock PSU

-lost


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Response Number 20
Name: TMP-Man
Date: March 28, 2007 at 21:24:14 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

You can upgrade to an radeon x1950pro agp, but you just can't use its full potential, so why bother to waste extra money on something you don't need? If you are going to play games at 1600x1200 max FSAA + AA, then getting the best AGP card makes sense given these conditions more limited by the GPU not the CPU. If you are going to play games at mid setting 1024x768, then CPU does matter more... So if video card #1 cost $50-70, video card #2 cost $100-$120 and perform the same under 1024x768 since it is bottleneck by your CPU/FSB, then is it justified to spend almost double the amount to get the same result?

TMP-Man

Asus P5P800 PAT
P4 506 @ 4009Mhz 1.3v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 1700RPM 92MM + AS5
2GB OCZ 2-3-2-5 DDR400
120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD
Leadtek 7600 AGP 590/1600 VF700 ALCU AS5


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Response Number 21
Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 28, 2007 at 21:26:31 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

this is indeed true and i get your point but with a 9800 pro will i be able to enjoy Ghost Recon advandce warfigher ?

P4 2.8Ghz
1Gb ram
160 HDD
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb AGP 8x
300 watt stock PSU

-lost


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Response Number 22
Name: jackbomb
Date: March 28, 2007 at 21:37:47 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

I don't know...the 9800Pro only has 128mb of vram...pretty small by today's standards. I truly believe that the X1650Pro is a much better choice. A 9800Pro would limit your gaming experience long before your 2.8GHz CPU could.

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Response Number 23
Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 28, 2007 at 21:42:30 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

whats the difference between ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

and the last card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


i have this power supply ..hoping this is good enough for the card :) which will be victorus! card 1, 2, 3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

p.s
(btw thank you all for all your dear help cause im noob and all with this vid card b/s)

P4 2.8Ghz
1Gb ram
160 HDD
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb AGP 8x
300 watt stock PSU

-lost


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Response Number 24
Name: TMP-Man
Date: March 28, 2007 at 22:22:26 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

Like I said earlier, if you are going to play games mostly at 1024x768 resolution, getting the 128mb video card is enough unless you want to play at high resolution like 1600x1200 max FSAA + AA. If you insist choose to spend more than you have to, then get the 512mb x1950pro agp or 512mb gainward bliss 7800GS+ and call it a day...

TMP-Man

Asus P5P800 PAT
P4 506 @ 4009Mhz 1.3v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 1700RPM 92MM + AS5
2GB OCZ 2-3-2-5 DDR400
120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD
Leadtek 7600 AGP 590/1600 VF700 ALCU AS5


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Response Number 25
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 29, 2007 at 05:20:36 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

"Like I said earlier, if you are going to play games mostly at 1024x768 resolution, getting the 128mb video card is enough unless you want to play at high resolution like 1600x1200 max FSAA + AA."

I don't necessarily agree there. May games with tons of high res textures can use 256M of video RAM even at 1024x768. In fact, GRAW caps your texture quality artificially if you don't have 512M of video RAM even at 1024x768, although you can hack around it.

"Enough, enough bowing down to disillusion!
Hats off & applause to rogues & evolution!
The ripple effect is too good not to mention.
If you’re not affected, you’re not paying attention!"


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Response Number 26
Name: LostxSoulz
Date: March 29, 2007 at 14:38:16 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

gettin the X1650 Pro 256 instead :) thanks for all your help guys :) cumputing.net is the best!

P4 2.8Ghz
1Gb ram
160 HDD
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb AGP 8x
300 watt stock PSU

-lost


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Response Number 27
Name: Brzi10
Date: May 19, 2007 at 19:35:26 Pacific
Subject: 7600 GT Vs. 7800 GS
Reply: (edit)

I WOULD GO WITH THE 7600 GT -- simply because it is cheaper and it gets more fps overall , then 7800 gs might get some higher fps but at the end the 7600 gt wins because it over takes 7800 gs in someway, i checked this on LEADTEK AND BFG. they both say that the 7600 gt wins , but why would the 7800 gs cost more then and it is newer HMMMMMMM plz anyone get back to me

Brzi 10

MY SYSTEM SPECS

Pentium 4 (R) - 3.4 GHz
Ram - 2x 1gb Corsair = 2Gb DDR 400 Pc3200
PSU - 320 Watts
Video - Leadtek 7600gt 256 mb AGP 8X
HD - 320 gb Seagate Barracuda 7200 Rpm
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