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Name: gmanych
Date: August 11, 2006 at 06:10:17 Pacific
OS: windows xp
CPU/Ram: 2.6 celeron, 768 Mb
Product: optima
Comment:

I dont get it. My friends computers in twice as powerful but mine rund games better.

My Specs.
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Amd Athlon Xp 1800+
Geforce 6600 256 Mb
768 Mb Ram
80 Gb Samsung HDD
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My Friends Specs.
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Amd Ahtlon 64 3200+
512 Mb Ram
Geforce 7300 Gs
250 Sata HDD
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My computer will run games such as Prey, Fear and Oblivion better than his. is going on.



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Response Number 1
Name: 1stepbeyond
Date: August 11, 2006 at 06:47:39 Pacific
Reply:

Hi
maybe he shouldve bought the 7300'gt'?

the 6600gt pulls about 3250 on 3dmark05
the 7300gs approx 2150

so its all about gpu power, swap cards to see.


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Response Number 2
Name: TMP-Man
Date: August 11, 2006 at 09:49:14 Pacific
Reply:

"the 6600gt pulls about 3250 on 3dmark05"

We are comparing 6600 to 7300gs, not 6600gt to 7300gs... Anyways, your 6600 has 300Mhz core @ 8pipeline and 500Mhz 128bit memory vs the 7300gs only has 550Mhz core @ 4 pipeline and 533Mhz 64 bit memory. So you if do some simple math here...

8 bit = 1 byte MP = Mega Pixels

6600 Fill rate = 300 x 8 = 2400MP/sec
Memory bandwidth = 500 x (128/8) = 8000MB/sec

7300gs Fill rate = 550 x 4 = 2200MP/sec
Memory bandwidth = 533 x (64/8) = 4264MB/sec

6600gt Fill rate = 500 x 8 = 4000MP/sc
Memory bandwidth = 1000 x (128/8) = 16000MB/sec

Based on the above spec, the 6600 runs faster than 7300gs and 6600gt is even faster..

"maybe he shouldve bought the 7300'gt'?"

You mean 7600gt? If you want to play the current games, at least buy a 7600gt or x1800 above...

TMP-Man

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2GB OCZ 2-3-2-5 DDR400
120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD
MSI 6600GT AGP 550/1100


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Response Number 3
Name: Pariah
Date: August 11, 2006 at 16:42:31 Pacific
Reply:

"If you want to play the current games, at least buy a 7600gt or x1800 above..."

I have to dis-agree. I have a vanilla 6600, 300mhz core and 400mhz memory. I play prey, battlefield 2, oblivion etc, etc and I get no lag what-so-ever. When it gets to the point that It will no longer play the new games, I've always got the overclocking headroom. I didn't realise the GT performed so much better though!


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Club3D GeForce6600 256mb
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Response Number 4
Name: TMP-Man
Date: August 11, 2006 at 18:03:47 Pacific
Reply:

"I have to dis-agree. I have a vanilla 6600, 300mhz core and 400mhz memory. I play prey, battlefield 2, oblivion etc, etc and I get no lag what-so-ever."

Try to play oblivion at 1280x1024 full setting with HDR with your 6600... Check your FPS during out doors and it will be below 10fps... If you are satisfy with low resolution and low to medium setting for the newer games out there, then yes, 6600 is enough for you. In fact, if you do not mind to play games at 640x480 with all details off, then integrated grahic also is not a bad choice for you either.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2812&p=6

TMP-Man

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MSI 6600GT AGP 550/1100


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Response Number 5
Name: Sabertooth
Date: August 11, 2006 at 19:10:21 Pacific
Reply:

"I have a vanilla 6600, 300mhz core and 400mhz memory. I play prey, battlefield 2, oblivion etc, etc and I get no lag what-so-ever."

You must have a mysterious 6600 there buddy!


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Response Number 6
Name: Mattwizz3 (by mattwizz3)
Date: August 11, 2006 at 21:41:00 Pacific
Reply:

You having a bit more RAM is also helpfull, 512Mb isnt really enough for people who use their computers for tasks like gaming anymore. 1Gb is pretty much mainstream now and many people are going for 2Gb nowdays too.

Mattwizz3 : )

Sempron 2600+ @ 2.2GHz
1Gb DDR400
Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe
200GB SATA / 80Gb IDE
256Mb MSI 6800 Ultra


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Response Number 7
Name: gmanych
Date: August 11, 2006 at 22:23:20 Pacific
Reply:

thanx for ll ur replys but is a 7300 gs better than a 6600 or worse or is it just cause i have 256 Mb more ram than his?


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Response Number 8
Name: Mattwizz3 (by mattwizz3)
Date: August 11, 2006 at 23:33:31 Pacific
Reply:

As TMP-Man pointed out the 6600 is better than te 7300gs. The 7300's are a pretty dodgy card. You having 256Mb more RAM is also a factor, so its a mixture of both. But I suspect that if you had 512Mb of ram your computer would still be better than his at gaming because of your graphics card.

Mattwizz3 : )

Sempron 2600+ @ 2.2GHz
1Gb DDR400
Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe
200GB SATA
2X 80Gb IDE
256Mb MSI 6800 Ultra


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Response Number 9
Name: Pariah
Date: August 12, 2006 at 00:50:23 Pacific
Reply:

All my games are played at 1024 x 768.

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Response Number 10
Name: gmanych
Date: August 12, 2006 at 02:41:03 Pacific
Reply:

Also I would like to ask if more ram would help me with my games. If i got a 1 Gb stick and i put my 512 with it and made 1.5 Gb of ram would that solve lag in games such as Quake 4.


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Response Number 11
Name: 1stepbeyond
Date: August 12, 2006 at 10:08:58 Pacific
Reply:

TMP-Man
theres no point in quoting all that guff, all chalk and cheese, ones a decent gaming graphics the other clearly is not.

as for the 6600gt well okay i didnt have the figures (non gt) to hand but its a good enough comparison just to answer the op.

& yes i meant 7300GT geforce, 8 pipes 350/667 OC to 475/900 (may be wrong on latter not sure) ether way it even puts the Ati X1600 in the shade on perf/cost
There about £56 here thats dam cheap for that performance.

http://www.ausfx.com/reviews/NVIDIA/Inno3D7300GT.php

gmanych
putting more ram in may help a bit, but you want better performance all round starting with upgrading the cpu to something equivalent to your friends or better, the Athlon1800 is past its best for new games.
Possibly depends on your mobo bios but a barton XP3200 would be better, or start afresh new mobo cpu etc.
your bottleneck is the cpu , your friends is his graphics card.

regards


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Response Number 12
Name: TMP-Man
Date: August 12, 2006 at 11:19:56 Pacific
Reply:

"TMP-Man
theres no point in quoting all that guff, all chalk and cheese, ones a decent gaming graphics the other clearly is not."

No point for you because you never use it in your life...

"Possibly depends on your mobo bios but a barton XP3200 would be better, or start afresh new mobo cpu etc.
your bottleneck is the cpu , your friends is his graphics card."

When he can get an athlon XP 2500+ and overclock to 3200+ level, why waste extra money to get a stock 3200+?

TMP-Man

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2GB OCZ 2-3-2-5 DDR400
120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD
MSI 6600GT AGP 550/1100


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Response Number 13
Name: TMP-Man
Date: August 12, 2006 at 11:26:28 Pacific
Reply:

"http://www.ausfx.com/reviews/NVIDIA/Inno3D7300GT.php"

I read the reviews, turns out its 2x 7300gt running in SLI mode and only got ~5k in 3DMark05. If you do get a 7600gt, easily surpass that ~5k barrier...

Lets do some math here, 7300Gt cost $200 CAD each according to the article while the 7600GT cost $300 CAD. So by getting 2x 7300GT @ $400 vs single 7600GT @ $300, which one is more justified for price vs performance ratio?

TMP-Man

Asus P5P800-SE PAT
P4 506 @ 4009Mhz 1.3625v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 1700RPM 92MM + AS5
2GB OCZ 2-3-2-5 DDR400
120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD
MSI 6600GT AGP 550/1100


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Response Number 14
Name: 1stepbeyond
Date: August 13, 2006 at 04:20:19 Pacific
Reply:

No point for you because you never use it in your life...
er what?

2x 7300GT @ $400 vs single 7600GT @ $300
er no, id buy a 7800 and be happy even at a current exchange rate.

seems you Canadians are paying way over the odds for Graphics cards. Somthing very bad (4u) in your exchange rate.



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Response Number 15
Name: TMP-Man
Date: August 13, 2006 at 09:48:31 Pacific
Reply:

"seems you Canadians are paying way over the odds for Graphics cards. Somthing very bad (4u) in your exchange rate."

Those prices are from the link of article you post... Go read it again yourself and more carefully this time before you make another statement...


TMP-Man

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