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Name: linkup90
Date: March 14, 2005 at 01:37:51 Pacific
OS: WinXP SP2
CPU/Ram: 2.5Ghz intel celeron 512M
Comment:

I know other people are having problems with this card. Mine is a XFX 6600 GT AGP 8x 128MB card. I have a 480W PSU and 512MB RAM, but still get around 12 fps play HL2 on lowest settings(including audio and res.).I'm starting to think its the motherboard, but it should work fine.I've tried different drivers,bio,vgabios, and other settings.
If you have an SIS mobo and same problem or a solution then REPLY! 3DMark01 7149 should be around 19,000.
PS If this is a incompactiblity problem that can be solve by driver Nvidia,SIS,ASRock, and XFX haven't and don't look like there going to do a thing about it. THX PEOPLES



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Response Number 1
Name: Stu.B
Date: March 14, 2005 at 05:18:01 Pacific
Reply:

Its undoubtedly two things:
1. Your CPU. Intel Celerons aren't great for gaming.
2. Your RAM is slow.

If you replaced your CPU (which is the main problem) I reckon you'd see a big performance.

Radeon 9800 Pro 128Mb/ 4.12
AMD Barton 2800 @ 2.3ghz
Asus A7N8X E-Deluxe
512 DDRAM PC2700 @ 360mhz


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Response Number 2
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 14, 2005 at 10:57:57 Pacific
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I know this may be a Captain Obvious reply, but how about replacing that mobo with an Intel chipset one?

Celeron CPU would NOT explain that poor of performance. Neither would the RAM...

"...but in my defense, it was dark, I was drunk, and it was delicious!"


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Response Number 3
Name: ...
Date: March 14, 2005 at 16:06:35 Pacific
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How was the game before you upgraded the video card? I agree that the CPU and memory is slow, and is most likely the bottleneck. Your video card is much more than you need for your system. It's like having a really fast sports car, but having a 90 year old person drive it...so much potential, but no capability to use it all. The celeron is no where near a pentium 4.

I have a p4 3.0 ghz cpu, and just got a leadtek 6600GT. I couldn't play doom3 at 1600x1200 ultra mode, but after overclocking my computer, it can handle it with no problem.

Also, the video card drivers are all slightly different. You need to try each one and find out which one works best with your hardware setup.

Also, there was an article on the various 6600GT's. I forget which manufacturers had problems, but the video card heatsink could come off if not handled properly. Check to see if the heatsink is still on properly, and that your GPU isn't overheating.


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Response Number 4
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 14, 2005 at 18:42:35 Pacific
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I've seen P4 1.6GHz CPU's run it at over 10fps on lowest settings, and a Celeron 2.5GHz somewhat close to that in performance. Say what you want about Celerons (they DO suck horribly), but a Celeron 2.5GHz should run better than that in HL2. Something else stinks here, and the odor is coming from the SiS chipset.

"...but in my defense, it was dark, I was drunk, and it was delicious!"


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Response Number 5
Name: leuk
Date: March 14, 2005 at 21:52:07 Pacific
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Hi, Did you connect the extra power core to your card as it require? I also thinks that the 2.5Ghz Celeron doesn't suck like that.=)


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Response Number 6
Name: linkup90
Date: March 21, 2005 at 13:02:10 Pacific
Reply:

Yes the extra pin is connected. HL2 was running on my onboard videocard(661FX 64mb shared). I don't think the card has heatsink problems, but it did have artifacts until i updated the drives. My cpu may be some what slow, but it should handle HL2(it handled D3). Remember the min req are 700mhz and 256mb. I checked out the mobo on the web and found out it uses pci-to-pci bridge for the agp port. If the agp port is running on 2 of the 3 pci slots then its probably going through the southbridge which is the slow bridge. The northbridge(fast bridge) is were the agp port is suppose to go through to connect to the cpu. So it could be sis fault that this is happening, but who say that it doesn't work. Anyway hope that make sense and of course i'm not 100% sure of this. May be possible for sis to fix this with drivers or not, but any reason or idea of why this is happening is welcome. Has anybody told sis or any other company about this?


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Response Number 7
Name: Grandmadeath
Date: March 22, 2005 at 04:07:36 Pacific
Reply:

Have the exact same problem. Intel P4 3.06 ghz wiht 1,5GB RAM 480W PSU and using the external power to the graphics card.

Note that HT affects performance. With HT disabled the card has a framerate about 2-5.
Have reinstalled OS and tried different drivers and also biosupgrades.
I have sent my card back to retailer and I hope this is a manufacturing problem.

Regards
/M


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Response Number 8
Name: linkup90
Date: March 23, 2005 at 18:21:23 Pacific
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Miguel make sure to post whether the new card worked or not. Also post the brand you had and the brand your getting. I had(also returned mine) an XFX 6600 GT AGP 128MB card. I already sent an email to microsoft about it being a messed up agp driver and I'll post there response soon(if they do respond).


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Response Number 9
Name: linkup90
Date: March 24, 2005 at 12:32:21 Pacific
Reply:

I just sent a email is ASrock about possible AGP driver incompatibility. I'll also post that response


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Response Number 10
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 24, 2005 at 14:42:09 Pacific
Reply:

Don't mean to beat a dead horse, but one of the biggest reasons Intel used to beat AMD in benchmarks was because of the Intel chipsets on motherboards, not the processors themselves (this changed when Nvidia finally made an exceptional chipset for AMD CPU's with the NForce2, and it's no surprise that's when AMD CPU's began to beat Intel or come really close to it). Intel chipsets outperform VIA and SiS handedly, and suffer from far less problems such as what you're seeing now. Historically, SiS chipset motherboards have been one of the most problematic along with ALI. If it were me, I'd get an Intel chipset motherboard to replace your current one, or (smarter buy actually) replace the motherboard, CPU, and fan altogether since your CPU is so slow comparably to even Athlon XP CPU's. But even just the motherboard you should be able to find something in an Intel chipset for I would think less than $60 new.

"...but in my defense, it was dark, I was drunk, and it was delicious!"


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Response Number 11
Name: linkup90
Date: April 2, 2005 at 15:09:13 Pacific
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I got a Evga Geforce 6800 and still had the low fps problem so its the mobo. I'm getting a intel chipset this time made by foxconn. I'll post whether it worked.


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Response Number 12
Name: linkup90
Date: April 7, 2005 at 10:49:41 Pacific
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The new foxconn mobo with the intel chipset increased the fps by an avg of 15 frames for my games, but that still nowhere near the 60+ i should be getting on hl2 or any other game. One thing i have notice is that the choppiness and shuttering is still there even if the frames are in the 60+ range. When ever i move or the action get intense it starts to get choppy and slow. Maybe it was the cpu(celeron 2.6Ghz) or the ram(512 at 133Mhz) or the mATX form factor all along. To bad because i'm out of money.


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