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which if these two cards would be the best all around gameing card?
the
PowerColor Radeon 7000 64MB
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1058665&CatId=876
costs 40 dollars, most user reviews I found on the internet say that powerColor sucks and dont buy it. I think that they were possibly expecting more than should be expected from a cheap card.the alternative is the Chaintech XGI Volari V3 128MB
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1043623&CatId=880
the reviews I found online said that this was really a pretty good card for the price, but isnt anything good at fifteen dollars?does anyone understand the technical specifications enough to tell which one of these cards will perform better?
My motherboard is a 'mach speed V2DP' and it only supports 4X agp so I wont be able to take advantage of the 8x agp available on the Volari Video card.thanks a lot for any help.

I would get the Volari because it uses DirectX8. also, if you look it says the Volari is $35 with a $20 rebate, that is why it is $15.

Good luck running any current games on either card.
You really should get at least a Radeon 9550, or an FX5700 if you like Nvidia, but if you're going to be ultra cheap, and you like tigerdirect, this card kicks the snot out of either of the two cards you're considering.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1157570&Sku=P56-2700%20W
It's still not my recommendation, as there are many games that won't even run on that card.
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PowerColor makes decent cards, but the Radeon 7000 sucks. The Volari V3 sucks even more...it's a low end 64-bit piece of crap! Don't worry about the 4X/8X issue...the difference is minimal. If you don't wanna spend a lot of money, but want something semi-decent for gaming, have a look at these:
If you want cheap, here's your card...Radeon 9250 128MB/128-bit AGP 4X/8X for about $35 (after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814166002
If you're willing to spend a little more for a better card that supports DX9 (the card above only supports up to DX8), have a look at this refurbished Radeon 9600 128MB/128-bit 4X/8X card for about $55:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102305R
If you're not willing to take a chance on a refurbed card, how about the PNY Geforce FX5200 128MBAGP/128-bit 4X/8X cardfor about $45:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814133144
Asus A7N8X-X
1800+ @ 8.5 x 200MHz
768MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7
Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB
WinME/WinXP Pro

Before someone jumps on my case about these choices, it's obvious that Jose doesn't wanna spend much.
BTW, I'm not a big fan of TigerDirect either...
Asus A7N8X-X
1800+ @ 8.5 x 200MHz
768MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7
Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB
WinME/WinXP Pro

ok all the u listed joe a crap sorry but dont even think about being any of thoses 2 until u see theses.
You want a good all round gaming card right? so you'd want theses things:-
dx 9
agp x4
128mb/128 bit inferfaceentry level
price :$40FX5200 Geforce
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814168002
low end gaming
price :$74
radeon 9600pro
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102408moderate gaming
price:$126
radeon 9800pro
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102362high moderate
price:$141
6600gt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130220ultimate gaming
price :$450
6800ultra
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130196all theses are good cards for there money expect the last one lol id wait until the prices come down until u buy something like that.anyway hope you found this info helpfull!
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Presscot 2.5g @ 533/133
2x256mb Samsung
Pny geforce 6 6600 GT
40gb seagate HDD
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Jam,
I'm officially jumping on your case about these choices. :-P
"Republicans in Congress are moving to ratify a constitutional amendment to ban flag burning, thus ending the Iraq insurgency."

heropsycho,
I wrote that 2nd message knowing that you probably would do just that...lol
Asus A7N8X-X
1800+ @ 8.5 x 200MHz
768MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7
Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB
WinME/WinXP Pro

those cards are junk and even i have better confidence in gfx cards than most. a radeon 9200 is fair, not great, but fair, performance for the price.
Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours.
R. Bach

if you want bang for ur buck, get an unlockible geforce 6200. you can turn it into a 6600. so, you have a $120 card for the $90(if you get lucky) price.
p4 3.0ghz @ 222X15=3330mhz
512mb pc3200 dual channel @222mhz
80gb wd hdd/40gb seagate when on linux
8x agp geforce 6200 @ 530/585can't unlock extra pipes. plz help if you can
Audigy 2 ZS<

If the guy's having a hard time trying to decide whether to spend $15 or $40, I doubt spending $90-120 is even an option...lol
Asus A7N8X-X
1800+ @ 8.5 x 200MHz
768MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7
Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB
WinME/WinXP Pro

Whatever, Mr. Radeon 9250!
TROOOOOGDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!
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Thanks for all your help. you have all convinced me not to get either of those.
What I want is a is a the best card I can get for under 50 bucks, I think that mostly what I will be using it for is 2d gameing, snes emulation and som on but it would be nice if it can run some newer games aswell.
It has to have composite out, and preferably just an RCA connector, not an s-video with an adapter. I will be mostly using it with a TV. If there were a perfect card, I could spend up to 75$, But I would like to keep it closer to fifty.
IS having a 64 bit card really so bad?

i just bought a nvidia fx5700 personal cinema of newegg.com for 79 dollars total (card+shipping+tax), and it has all that stuff, and you might be able to find a ati radeon 9000 all in wonder, my friend has that card and it runs all the newer games on low settings and has the tv stuff. (ati all in wonder is better than the nvidia personal cinema, but its also a lot more expensive)

or you could just buy the card you were planning on for under 50 and buy a tv tuner card for like 30 bucks

64-bit cards are 30-40% slower than 128-bit cards, so YES, it makes a difference. And since you can get a 128-bit card in the price range you're willing to pay, a 64-bit card shouldn't even be considered.
If you bothered to check the link that I posted, you would see that the Amigo Radeon 9250 has 128MB RAM @ 128-bit, it works at 4X or 8X AGP, it has S-Video & Composite Out (RCA), & it only costs $30 (after rebate) plus $5 shipping. So for $35, you'd have something far superier to the crap you're looking at.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814166002
Asus A7N8X-X
1800+ @ 8.5 x 200MHz
768MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7
Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB
WinME/WinXP Pro

Not to mention it's from Newegg, not Tigerdirect
Asus A7N8X-X
1800+ @ 8.5 x 200MHz
768MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7
Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB
WinME/WinXP Pro

Tigerdirect is as crappy as the two cards you were asking about...maybe worse...
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