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2.4 GHz? or 400MHz??

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Name: halflife31j
Date: February 9, 2005 at 17:23:54 Pacific
OS: Windows XP
CPU/Ram: Inel Celeron
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Okay, so im getting a new computer, it has an Intel Celeron Processor at 2.40GHz, but it says that it has 400MHz front side bus and 128 KB L2 cache. I want to buy Halo for that new computer, but it says that i need a processor speed of 933Mhz, now, does that mean that i can run that game on my computer with the given processor speed? (I dont know what they are reffereing the 933MHz to: i know that 2.4GHz is more than the 933MHz, but is the system requirements lable referring to the 400MHz front side bus or the 2.4GHz??) I am completely confused..



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Response Number 1
Name: devils6889
Date: February 9, 2005 at 18:39:27 Pacific
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yes you can. 2.4 refers to the processor speed, while 400 mhz refers to the front side bus which is completely different. the 900 mhz miniumum requirement is for the processor. if u just wanna say what ur main computer speed is, it would be 2.4 ghz.


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Response Number 2
Name: meKilgore
Date: February 9, 2005 at 18:40:52 Pacific
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I'll assume your being serious.

In your case, the processor speed is 2.4GHZ

About one and half time faster than the game requires.

The Frontside bus (fsb) speed is 400mhz.

The frontside bus is only related to the L2 cache, if the L2 cache is external (in other words, not on the processor itself.

A bus is any wire used to transmit data between hardware components on your computer. The front side bus is just such a wire (or 64 wires or 128 wires, each wire transmits one bit at a time) that connect the CPU to the Northbridge chip (and L2 Cache). Your memory, AGP controller, PCI Bus and EIDE controllers are connected to the Northbridge chip. If your CPU wants to send data directly to your AGP card, it does so through the Northbridge chip, which in turn sends that info over the frontside bus. F.Y.I., there is another bus on your computer that runs from the Super I/O controller (keyboard, mouse, ISA, etc) or southbridge chip to the CPU. Data can only move across the front side bus at 400mhz, in your case. 400 x 64/2/2 = 6.4ghz which is about three times faster than AGP 8 3.0 at 2.4 ghz. In other words, the frontside bus is faster than the AGP controller, and therefore, basically irrelevent concerning the graphic potential of your system. Just realize that where the CPU can process data internally at 2.4 gigabytes, data can only move at 400 mhz. As a matter of fact, the cpu is a mutiple of the frontside bus speed, in your case, the CPU is multiplied at 6 x 400mhz = 2.4 ghz. Just remember the CPU does calculations (sometimes twice as fast) and process code at 2.4ghz and the frontside bus moves the input data from other devices and CPU output at 400mhz.

Probably more than you needed to know! I hope this helped.


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Response Number 3
Name: meKilgore
Date: February 9, 2005 at 19:22:03 Pacific
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I realize there are some mistakes in my post above. For starters, I meant to say 6.4 gigabytes, not gigahertz. Also, the frontside bus is between the CPU and northbridge, not between the AGP controller and northbridge in the way I make it sound in my post. Any other correction are of course welcome.


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Response Number 4
Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: February 9, 2005 at 19:26:02 Pacific
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What the hell are you guys talking about?!

The bus speed has to do with how fast the bus is moving. Of course this will depend on how good the public transportation is in your area. Remember the movie speed? In that movie that bus speed was always greater than 50 miles an hour. If it went below that the bus would blow.

"Pop quiz, Hotshot. There's a bomb on a bus. Once the bus goes 50 miles an hour, the bomb is armed. If it drops below 50 it blows up. What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO?"

Michael J


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Response Number 5
Name: Stimpy
Date: February 10, 2005 at 02:48:44 Pacific
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....yeah whatever.

Dude (Jon) just a tip, unless this is a one in a lifetime deal at an INCREDIBLE price, try to avoid this 400MHz FSB Celeron system at all costs or you will regret it sooner rather than later.

Look for something (intel) maybe in the 533 or 800 FSB range with a bit more L1 and L2 cache on it, or at least a celeron D, what about a nice Athlon XP 2400 or a Sempron 3000? Celeron cpu's have huge gaming performance limitations for today's standards, do a bit of reaserch for your own good.


Does anyone agree w/me?

Peace.


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Response Number 6
Name: Cody (by kerodude3058)
Date: February 10, 2005 at 07:11:30 Pacific
Reply:

i ran halo on an old 200mhz sytem..and it workd great lol. 2.4 ghz will definetly cut it.


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Response Number 7
Name: ER4S3R
Date: February 10, 2005 at 07:37:35 Pacific
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LOL Michael J! I thought I was the only one who could remember that quote, funny post hehe.

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Response Number 8
Name: halflife31j
Date: February 10, 2005 at 12:35:48 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks guys, now i understand. By the way Stimpy, it was an amazing deal, the computer i just got came in today, and for the money, it is just what i needed. Thanks everyone for helping me out.


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Response Number 9
Name: Ry Spy
Date: February 10, 2005 at 22:55:51 Pacific
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Originally posted by: Stimpy
"....yeah whatever.
Dude (Jon) just a tip, unless this is a one in a lifetime deal at an INCREDIBLE price, try to avoid this 400MHz FSB Celeron system at all costs or you will regret it sooner rather than later.

Look for something (intel) maybe in the 533 or 800 FSB range with a bit more L1 and L2 cache on it, or at least a celeron D, what about a nice Athlon XP 2400 or a Sempron 3000? Celeron cpu's have huge gaming performance limitations for today's standards, do a bit of reaserch for your own good.


Does anyone agree w/me?"

Hello, there are celerons that have 256 KB L2 cache, and gaming performance depends upon your mobo, videcard, and RAM/Memory too. I say this out of experience, because I have a 2.0 GHz Celeron. I can play any game without any lag (except for internet games, I only have a 56K modem). Also, celerons are highly overclockable; even overclocked mine to 3.0 GHz, using stock Fan/HS.

Expertâ„¢


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Response Number 10
Name: gmax
Date: February 11, 2005 at 02:29:59 Pacific
Reply:

Hello, if I may say, do not bet on a Celeron for gamin ...I've just replaced a Celeron 2.0 ghz for a P4 3.0 ghz and i can tell the difference (even with same mobo, ram and videocard)... if possible spend your money also on a performing videocard ... btw I've been suggested a radeon 9700 ... what do u hink?
Thanks
Max


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