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2 gaming pc's, only can choose one

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Name: Apogee
Date: October 14, 2009 at 08:20:47 Pacific
OS: Windows XP
Subcategory: General
Comment:

Ok im stuck in a choice between 2 pc builds and could use some help on which to choose, here are the specs of both

first choice: Note that this one is more expensive
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 2.66Ghz
GIGABYTE GA-G31M-S2C Motherboard

NVIDIA GeForce GTS250 1GB DDR3 Overclock Edition or ATI Radeon HD4850 1GB DDR3 Graphics Card

2GB (1 x 2GB) 800Mhz DDR2 RAM
GIGABYTE ODIN 585 WATT Gaming PSU

Second choice: This build is more cheaper
Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q8400 2.66GHz 4MB Cache
Intel G31 1333 FSB Chipset Motherboard

ATI Radeon HD4650 1GB DDR2 Graphics card
4GB (2 x 2GB) pc6400 800Mhz DDR2

They both come with Seagate 500GB 7200rpm SATA 2 harddrive and a Lite-On 24x Duel Layer DVD Writer and a HD audio channel

so which one should i choose?



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Response Number 1
Name: kuwese
Date: October 14, 2009 at 08:58:49 Pacific
Reply:

take the first choice but add more ram(4gb) mobo with p45 chipset,instead of taking 1gb hd4850 gddr3,take 512mb 4870 gddr5,cpu is fine but socket lga775 is getting old.


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Response Number 2
Name: Apogee
Date: October 14, 2009 at 09:19:49 Pacific
Reply:

Is there a large peformance difference between a 1gb hd4850 gddr3 against the 512mb 4870 gddr5? also is the 4870 cheaper? also "socket lga775 is getting old.
" lga775?? help me there


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Response Number 3
Name: kuwese
Date: October 14, 2009 at 10:14:31 Pacific
Reply:

There is perfomance difference,between 4850 & 4870,ati reduce gpu speed of 4850 by 17% and memory speed by 45%."lga775 is getting old" what i mean is,cpu u mention(core 2 q8400)use socket 775 but there is new cpu (core i5 750 which use socket 1156) which deliver great perfomance and its cheaper.


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Response Number 4
Name: UpAndComing
Date: October 14, 2009 at 10:23:59 Pacific
Reply:

because you specified that this is for Gaming, no component matters more than your graphics card. So definitely go with the recommended 4870 over the 4850. The core clock frequency is faster, manufacturers just stick extra ram on video cards because the bigger number helps sell it. 512MB of video RAM is plenty, plus the GDDR5 is faster than the GDDR3.

Socket LGA775 is the socket type on the motherboard where the CPU goes. the Intel Core 2 Duos and Core2 Quads rest in a Socket LGA775. But if you tried to stick a Pentium4, Athlon 2800, or a Core i7 CPU into a LGA775 socket, you'd break both the motherboard and CPU. The Q8400 is a fine CPU, Kuwese was just pointing out that with the release of the intel Core i7 processors, the C2D/C2Q chips are "last generation." You will not be able to upgrade your CPU to a Core i7 without also purchasing a new motherboard.

and yeah, get 4GB of ram.


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Response Number 5
Name: Apogee
Date: October 14, 2009 at 11:46:40 Pacific
Reply:

k and with the i5 processor will i need a new motherboard?


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Response Number 6
Name: Apogee
Date: October 14, 2009 at 11:56:42 Pacific
Reply:

Actually could i ask you guys to give me a i5 processor build for a certain amount of cash? i got R5500 to R6000 to spend ( R being rands in SA ) in dollars that will be $738.25 if the rand to dollar is at 7.45

note that it doesnt have to be a amazing build, just a decent one which i could upgrade over time, also this would ofc be for gaming, thnx for anything again in advance :)

it doesnt have to have a windows on it, and i wont need a screen, mouse or keyboard


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Response Number 7
Name: kuwese
Date: October 14, 2009 at 14:12:36 Pacific
Reply:

Cpu (core i5 750 cost $199). Mobo (gigabyte GA-P55-UD3R cost $ 139). vga card(hd 4870 512mb gddr5 take xfx cost $124). Ram(ddr3 2x2gb cost $90) and u need psu cost $50


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: October 14, 2009 at 16:28:48 Pacific
Reply:

LGA 1156 / Intel P55 chipset is newer technology, but the LGA 775 still has some life left in it & is probably cheaper. The board you chose is based on the old Intel G31 chipset though...you should be looking at boards based on the the Intel P43 or P45.

4GB (2 x 2GB) is the way to go.

And as UpAndComing stated, the video card is the primary component in a gaming machine. Stay away from the Radeon HD4650 with GDDR2 memory. In fact, for decent gaming graphics, any card that uses GDDR2 memory should be avoided. 512MB vs 1GB isn't as important an issue as GDDR2 vs GDDR3.


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Response Number 9
Name: Apogee
Date: October 15, 2009 at 10:06:15 Pacific
Reply:

ok i went looking on some info on the things Kuwese said and unfortunalty because SA over price everything, that motherboard alone will cost me around R3599 - $481.90 if again rand to dollar is 7.45.

is there a cheaper and more affordable mobo for i5? and is it good?


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Response Number 10
Name: Apogee
Date: October 15, 2009 at 11:18:01 Pacific
Reply:

Ok i just found mobos which i can get for R2000 + / - which is $268.45 and they are:

ASUS P7P55D LE for R1500 - $201.34
ASUS P7P55D PRO for R2000 - $268.45

and the MSI P55-GD65 for for just under R2000

are any of these good? are there better for the same price? or are there one's for less than this but still decent?


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Response Number 11
Name: kuwese
Date: October 15, 2009 at 11:37:40 Pacific
Reply:

They are good mobo but they cost too much,u better stick with c2q q8400 and take mobo with p43 or p45 chipset.


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Response Number 12
Name: Apogee
Date: October 15, 2009 at 12:09:04 Pacific
Reply:

k well il take that to consideration but i went and done a little more digging and i found 2 more pc builds which i can get easy

build 1: core i5 750 2.66 GH
GV-R487D5-1GD Gigabyte ati 487
GA-P55-UD4P Mobo
Trancend 2GB ram
Gygabyte Setto 1000 Chassis
650 PSU
this is all in this build, still needs a hard drive and this is worth R5556.30 - $745.81

Build 2:

* Quad-Core Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q8400 2.66GHz 4MB Cache
* Intel G31 Chipset Motherboard
* ATI Radeon HD4850 512MB Graphics Card
* Cooler Master Elite 310 Case
* 2GB (1 x 2GB) 800Mhz DDR2 RAM
* Seagate 250GB SATA 2 7200rpm Hard Drive
* Samsung 22x Dual Layer DVD +/- Rewriter
* 2 Front and 4 Back USB Ports
* Integrated 6.1 CH HD Sound Card
* LAN Card - Broadband Ready
* 24 Months Return to base warranty

this is for R5699 - $765 and it has all it needs

which should i go for?


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Response Number 13
Name: kuwese
Date: October 15, 2009 at 12:35:16 Pacific
Reply:

First build is great but u need more ram(2x2gb) and if u can find gv-r487d5 512mb take it. Second build u need also more ram 2x2gb and hd 4870 512mb and mobo with p45 or p43 chipset


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Response Number 14
Name: kuwese
Date: October 15, 2009 at 12:41:11 Pacific
Reply:

If u take first build later on on u can upgrade cpu to core i7 870,860


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Response Number 15
Name: kuwese
Date: October 15, 2009 at 13:13:24 Pacific
Reply:

Asus p5q-e (socket lga775 with p45 chipset cost $102)


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Response Number 16
Name: jam
Date: October 15, 2009 at 20:44:55 Pacific
Reply:

What isn't sinking in? The i5 / P55 doesn't fit your budget...go with an LGA 775 build. But scrap that piece of sh!t G31 board & get a P43 or P45 board. And get 4GB RAM, not 2GB.

How about posting a link to the site you'll be buying from & let us pick the hardware for you?


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