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Name: jz
Date: October 8, 2007 at 14:46:07 Pacific
OS: win1.01
CPU/Ram: pentium III
Product: unknown
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i recently installed win 1.01 under microsoft virtual pc. the only possibly fixable error is the arrow keys don't work. this always happens. I've even tried dos keyboard drivers(win 1.01 runs under dos and i'm running it under ms-dos 3.3).the arrow keys work in plain dos.



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Response Number 1
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 8, 2007 at 23:21:01 Pacific
Reply:

Says here that win 1.01 only recognized the old 84-key KB, meaning you couldn't use the numberic keypad:

http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_gu...

But I'd think the regular arrow keys should work OK.


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Response Number 2
Name: jz
Date: October 9, 2007 at 13:58:16 Pacific
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i read the page you found and it said he "d-pad arrow keys" will not work on a standard keyboard now for windows 1.01. i searched the internet for a standard keyboard to 84 key keyboard scan code converter to run on the computer, and found ansi.sys wich does exactly that, but will run as a driver under dos in virtual pc, which is better. will tell you if this works and is the problem. now i understand. since win 1.01 is old, and it uses 84 key scancodes, they are different and it doesn't work.


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Response Number 3
Name: jz
Date: October 9, 2007 at 14:46:33 Pacific
Reply:

it didn't work. it plain didn't work. it loaded but the arrow keys didn't work


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Response Number 4
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 9, 2007 at 16:33:01 Pacific
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You've got the arrow keys on the numeric keypad numbers 2, 4, 6, 8. Those won't work according to that page. You've also got the arrow keys just to the left of the keypad (on a regular keyboard anyway). I believe those should work OK without any additional drivers.

I don't know what kind of keyboard you're using. I just assumed you have access to both sets of arrow keys. But if you only have the arrow keys on the numeric keypad then I don't think you're going to get it to work. If you have both sets of arrow keys and are using the separate ones next to the keypad then I don't know what the problem is.

Loading device=[path]ansi.sys/k in config.sys should work to force your 101 KB to 84. But again, that's not going to work with the numberic keypad arrows and I guess you've already tried it.


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Response Number 5
Name: jz
Date: October 10, 2007 at 14:56:05 Pacific
Reply:

i am not using the number pad arrow keys but i also have a laptop so the keyboard may not be standard. i am going to start my computer up and use an external keyboard to see if it makes a difference


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Response Number 6
Name: jz
Date: October 10, 2007 at 15:09:55 Pacific
Reply:

i just noticed that the ansi.sys does not work in ms-dos 3.3


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Response Number 7
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 10, 2007 at 18:47:10 Pacific
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You'd have to use the 3.3 version of ansi.sys and I don't know if it can use the /k switch.

Or, if you're going to stay with 3.3, load setver.exe in config.sys and edit it so it'll accept a later version of ansi.sys for which the /k switch will work. Then you'd have to find the ansi.sys for the later version.


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Response Number 8
Name: jz
Date: October 12, 2007 at 14:56:41 Pacific
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setver will not load in ms-dos 3.3 because ms-dos 3.3 cannot load drivers as an exe.when i use ms-dos 5.0 applications will not load under windows.


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Response Number 9
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 12, 2007 at 16:40:05 Pacific
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I imagine the problem then is the laptop KB and dos 3.3/win 1.02 not having the correct drivers to see it properly. You might want to check on the laptop manufacturer's site to see if they have any drivers. Otherwise I don't think you're going to get it working given the limitations of 3.3 and virtual PC.


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Response Number 10
Name: jz
Date: October 12, 2007 at 17:13:07 Pacific
Reply:

looks like i have to program a scancode converter. well, i have scancodes to look up.


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