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Welcome to PhoenixOS

Original Message
Name: i_killd_JFK
Date: December 5, 2007 at 20:16:44 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
OS: FreeDOS
CPU/Ram: Dual PIII 1.5ghz x2 1.256
Model/Manufacturer: Asus
Comment:
im sure you have hurd of freedos here no doubt!, im sure some of you may have seen or hurd of the Ozone Gui for DOS?

i think even jim hall from freedos has seen the new distribution for fdos "Phoenix OS" which hopes to be a Free Desktop system similar ot Linux but keeping it classic aswell as modern. the Desktop enviroment Phoenix Ozone gui is the user interface, it is kind of like Gnome for linux if you have ever seen or used that. its a multitaking environment which features a file explorer mp3 player text editor etc..

Dos is not knowen for its multitasking its always in series 1 then 2 then 3 etc..not 123 at the same time. this os also includes a multitasking enviroment for Freedos so you can run multiple batch files or programs at the same time.(limited to 8 at present)

the whole project is free!, all the programs are open source! and did i mention its free!

so if you are interested just take a look at phoenixos.net.tf or phoenixos.infernohost.net and if you wanna help even if its only stuff like Gfx or batch coding so you have freeware u wanna share just check it out thanks.

i_killd_JFK, Project Manager PhoenixOS 2008

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Response Number 1
Name: dw333b
Date: December 6, 2007 at 21:38:32 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
Phoenix and Firebird are already taken as software names. Find something original or you will confuse people.



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Response Number 2
Name: i_killd_JFK
Date: December 6, 2007 at 23:41:10 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
PhoenixOS is the code name ie "longhorn" or what ever...thanks for your comment any ideas what we could use then? ie "longerhorn" or maybe "hornlong" alot of the good names are taken by linux now days lol. EBENTU? lol. Softmicro swodniw haha. DOS 2008? bit boring... for now it remain Phoenix AS A Project name because thats all it is at this point.

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Response Number 3
Name: WebsWonder
Date: December 7, 2007 at 01:18:02 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
Yes but phoenixos.infernohost.net you title it "Phoenix Firebird v3.0989 Alpha "PhoenixOS 2008"" which is very confusing.

Actually we have GEM, Spectra etal so is there a need to rehash the OZONE project which died from lack of developers/interest.

This will never be an alternative to Windows/Linux, your time would be better spent on creating an embedded O/S which can be used on a miniPC like the:

http://www.linutop.com

Which can run a WEBOS like:

http://www.ajaxwindows.com/apps/win...

Yes **-DOS Software needs Javascript and Flash Support not another GUI, no wonder **-DOS has been relagated to the past.


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Response Number 4
Name: i_killd_JFK
Date: December 7, 2007 at 13:25:26 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
hm yes the very basic GUI's for dos and machines from the arcaic days execellent.

why does dos have to be restricted to the image that dos is a dinosaur? Gem is great for lower end PC's no doubt but i think freedos deserves to be more than an os people use to boot their pc's when it crashes.

the development of Ozone is not dead at all i have been in contact with flox the maintainer who is helping on this project there just has not been any public releases for a while.

the name may lack orginality but that can be easly enuf changed. they are FREE Url's anyway.

i could spend my time on those kind of projects but i dont want to do those things,

the only thing coming close to replacing windows is mac at this point (yes, i know linux & unix.) so its very silly to say that this will never replace windows...OBVIOUSLY IT WONT. MAC & Unix Based systems are the only thing that will.


as a mac and linux user i have an old dual CPU PIII PC which i wanted to do somthing with. FreeDOS is awesome and i just wanted a more modern look for dos rather than some of the other (very good) basic GUIS for DOS.

ill admit the name is "cheesy" and needs work. some may find the project exciting and some not. if you are a person that thinks "DOS has been relagated to the past" i wouldnt worry about this project.

thank you for your input ill take this as constructive critasism take waht you have said and make the approprite changes. thanks namstai you guys. lol

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Response Number 5
Name: WebsWonder
Date: December 7, 2007 at 14:22:06 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
I am a occassional PC-DOS7 W2K user.

If **-DOS software supported JAVA, Flash etal then would be more enthused.

I resurected the following site rather than let it die totally, ever hopeful that one day there may be a need to re-write:

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/masrtin

Good luck and why not OZONE-DOS ?? ROFL!!



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Response Number 6
Name: dw333b
Date: December 7, 2007 at 20:14:51 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
OZONE-DOS does have a nice ring to it, and names DO matter in terms of interesting new people in a project.
The "-DOS" bit actually conveys information and will show up better in search engines.


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Response Number 7
Name: i_killd_JFK
Date: December 7, 2007 at 21:03:15 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
Ozone-DOS or OZONEDOS yea sure im mean i couldnt think of anything but if you think thats a good name to give it ill do it.

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Response Number 8
Name: WebsWonder
Date: December 7, 2007 at 21:52:34 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
OZONE = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone

It was meant as a joke, Ozone or O3 is omething one is aware of but most people do not know what it really is.....


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Response Number 9
Name: i_killd_JFK
Date: December 7, 2007 at 22:48:27 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
really? a joke wow you sure got me . . .

names are names ill just use it for the time being. ozone gui on dos.

your pointless input interreges me why dont you suggest dosisdeadOS as the next name?

thanks. &)

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Response Number 10
Name: WebsWonder
Date: December 7, 2007 at 23:16:53 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
**-DOS is not dead, it still has a place in computing and personally try to give all young people who have an interest in computing an insight into "command line" **-DOS.

The problem is that there is nothing NEW to entice anyone but hobbyists and diehards to see it as a viable O/S. BeOS, Amiga, RiscOS are in similar vain.

All I would love is **-DOS to be a viable alternative O/S which I can use day in day out for computing tasks we take for granted in XP. Maybe your goals are different ?

Sorry if you find me negative but how can one enthuse when there is nothing to enthuse about ?


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Response Number 11
Name: i_killd_JFK
Date: December 7, 2007 at 23:30:58 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
my goals are the same "All I would love is **-DOS to be a viable alternative O/S "

but i clearly see what your saying that DOS is now lets face it an old skool nerd thing. younger genereations dont even know what DOS is.

the project is more trivial than anything. im just doing it because i feel like doing it if it bombs im not bumed...

thanks

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Response Number 12
Name: WebsWonder
Date: December 8, 2007 at 00:33:50 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
DOS = Black Screen White Text, according to W2K/XP Users.

Good luck with the project, it may bring some life into FreeDOS!


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Response Number 13
Name: glennmcc
Date: December 8, 2007 at 15:24:04 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
DOS itself may be either dead or at-least dying.

However.....
there's _one_ graphic DOS web browser that
is neither dead nor dying. :)


glennmcc


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Response Number 14
Name: i_killd_JFK
Date: December 8, 2007 at 16:00:30 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
i moved to linux because they still make use of the consol. wea Vista nd Xp are moving to PC for Dummys.

the main problem i have with vista is its all about how "we are better & flasher than mac" i think after 2k they lost the idea of an OS. 2k was stable enough for me. and did not have all the stupid gimmics of XP & Vista. i think home should have all the PC for dummy garbage and Pro should be a complete stripped down version for advanced users. no bells hell no whistles.

i have seen a dr-dos distribution with Arachne, DOS web browser bundled with it. called MultiDOS. i have a copy but never used it.

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Response Number 15
Name: WebsWonder
Date: December 9, 2007 at 01:43:08 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
Yep, Arachne Rocks, but still lacks Javeshiite and Flashy etal...

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Response Number 16
Name: glennmcc
Date: December 9, 2007 at 06:28:06 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
Java script is 'in the wroks'. ;-)

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/...

glennmcc


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Response Number 17
Name: arisoue
Date: December 14, 2007 at 07:14:05 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
It's good... It's quite good, actually. I like Ozone GUI for DOS, it's promising. Waiting to see next release. I still have and use an installation of MS-DOS 7.10 (Wengier & Roy's edition!). I would just like to see Ozone GUI load on top of all flavours of DOS, even MS-DOS, not only FreeDos. Is it possible?

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Response Number 18
Name: i_killd_JFK
Date: December 17, 2007 at 15:07:00 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
yea its a good modern Gui that less nerdy people will take to. a lot of people find the likes of GEM and WINDOS type menus GUI systems to be crusty & old. dos nerds find them useful and easy to use etc.. Ozone is kinda in the middle modern enough for average Joe and simple to use.

next release "batman" will be late jan/feb


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Response Number 19
Name: i_killd_JFK
Date: December 23, 2007 at 02:36:59 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
JAVA For DOS? http://waba.sourceforge.net/

Seems to be interesting.

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Response Number 20
Name: WebsWonder
Date: December 23, 2007 at 14:07:00 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
This is the WABA DOS link:

http://www.thisiscool.com/doswaba.htm


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Response Number 21
Name: Daniel G. Gionco
Date: December 24, 2007 at 16:19:09 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
In Spanish language, the word "DOS" means "two" (2).
I suggest to you that to the new OS call it "TRES" that means "three" (3).

Good luck with the project...

Daniel G. Gionco
Buenos Aires - Argentina


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Response Number 22
Name: teknodos
Date: June 3, 2008 at 15:25:45 Pacific
Subject: Welcome to PhoenixOS
Reply: (edit)
There is the NX-DOS project trying to build it from the bottom up in assembly language. Project can use
some interested developers to find bugs and submit ideas.

http://nxdos.sourceforge.net/



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