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Version of Dos in Windows 98

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Name: EK
Date: March 28, 2001 at 09:39:34 Pacific
Comment:

What is the version of DOS running under WIN 98 1st edition?



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Response Number 1
Name: name
Date: March 28, 2001 at 10:01:02 Pacific
Reply:

This is sorta like asking, "why is there air?" And, this is a windows 9x question, not a dos question. The version of dos that runs with W98 is the version that runs with it, period. There IS no other version. You can't change it, or do anything about it, so it does not matter. It was integrated into Windows 9x by design, from the start. Unline Windows 3x, which can use a few different versions of (separate) Ms-DOS, this is what you get. It's with it. It's part of it. It's just is. IT's, it's it's. it just doesn't matter. The sky is blue because the sky is blue, that's why.


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Response Number 2
Name: TimeRider
Date: March 28, 2001 at 12:20:12 Pacific
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Hey EK:

Kind of a rude response eh?

I believe the answer to your question is DOS 7.0. Check out this link:

http://www.ctyme.com/msdos7.htm/

Ant to the rude one . . . I don't know about your world but my sky is sometimes grey, like today. Right before a summer storm I've seen green skies. The sunrise sky is orange and gold like fire. While the sunset brings beautiful reds that change to a marvelous cobalt followed by velvet black.

If you aren't going to be positive, and try to help people. Do everyone a favor and shut the H*ll up.



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Response Number 3
Name: TechGUY
Date: March 28, 2001 at 12:29:13 Pacific
Reply:

As a matter of fact versions of Windows 9x do have DOS versions, however 'name' is correct in one point in that they report themselves as the Windows version only.
The underlying DOS versions are:

Windows 95 & 95A     MS-DOS 7.0
Windows 95B & 95C    MS-DOS 7.10
Windows 98 & 98se    MS-DOS 7.10
Windows Me           MS-DOS 8.0
Windows XP (BETA)    Uses NT Technoligy

There is no real gain in using any of the WindowsDOS versions as stand alone OSs. (This can be done by using the bootdisks)
If you need a version of DOS use MS-DOS 6.22


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Response Number 4
Name: TimeRider
Date: March 28, 2001 at 12:39:24 Pacific
Reply:

I stand corrected, v7.10

I don't know if EK wants to run it as a stand alone . . . he/she doesn't say. maybe EK is just curious. I just felt that "name's" answer was uncalled for.

Thanks for the update to TechGUY.



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Response Number 5
Name: EK
Date: March 28, 2001 at 12:58:51 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you for those unrude responses. I plan on moving information between a customer
file created by an old text based Basic program and the address book of Outlook 2000


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Response Number 6
Name: name
Date: March 28, 2001 at 15:45:26 Pacific
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My response was not rude, not at all. You get what you get. You don't go out and buy a "version" of dos so you can put it in with your windows 9x. You have your windows 9x cd/discs/whateve/pirate copy/etc, and that's what you have. thats it. you can't change it, unless you want to buy/get/steal a different version of Windoz9x. AND, THIS IS STILL A WINDOWS QUESTION, NOT A DOS QUESTION.


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Response Number 7
Name: Tony
Date: March 28, 2001 at 17:00:24 Pacific
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it was rude, a dos question was asked, so it needs to be answered, i didn't read if ek wanted to change it, some people want to know what dos version comes with these windows, not everyone knows, some programs require a certain dos version, ek probably tried a program, that didn't work, and it probably said in correct version of dos, so ek maybe just wanted to know which version he had, simple as that, you don't have to be rude and write an essay about your bs logic, and don't answer the question.


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Response Number 8
Name: The Doof
Date: March 28, 2001 at 17:29:41 Pacific
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name, if that is your real name, what you said was totally rude and uncalled for. Asking what version of DOS comes with Win '95 or '98 is a perfectly legitimate question. Asking how one might do something or get a game working or whatever under one of those DOS versions are also a legitimate DOS questions. It's one of the few opporunities us DOS freaks get to interest Windows users in DOS. You ain't doing us no favours here, sparky. Now sod off.

Windows 3x is a DOS shell with pretentions, Windows 9x is a DOS shell with delusions.



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Response Number 9
Name: name
Date: March 28, 2001 at 19:39:05 Pacific
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Exactly my point, Dufus, except for one thing. You can (or could) BUY windows 3x and MS DOS SEPARATE. And, you can use, if you really want, a separate, older version of DOS with Windows 3x. You do NOT have that option with Windoz 9x, unless youre a hacker/programmer, because it comes already just the way it is on the installation media. YOU can't change it, if you are a normal computer user. You can't buy anything different. If you have Windoz 95, whatever version you have, then the dos that came with it is whut u get. That's it. You can't sit down and say, duh, waull, I theenk I'll install, uh, duh, Dos 2.1 tonight with my windoz 98. And BECAUSE this is the way it is, then this IS a Windoz9x question. You can't buy it separate, and unless youre a hacker, you can't install it separate. You just can't. THat's the way it IS. You can't buy a Fraud with a Chivvy engine, and you can't buy a Toydoda with a Jiguar engine. And, guess what? You can't buy Widoz 9x with a different version of "dos" than the one that was integrated into it!


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Response Number 10
Name: Bulldog
Date: March 28, 2001 at 20:03:07 Pacific
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Hey name . . .

You do know you're a moron right?

Now listen carefully . . . . scroll up to the top . . . that's the square thingie on the right side there.

Now, when you get there, READ THE QUESTION.

It was never asked if it could be changed, extracted, folded, spindled or mutilated. It was asked what version of DOS it was. A simple question appropriate for a DOS forum you simple f*&K!

Get a life.


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Response Number 11
Name: Tony
Date: March 28, 2001 at 22:01:34 Pacific
Reply:

jeeze what bug crawled up his as*
simple question, what does verison, simple answer, no, he has to write an essay about how you can't take it about.
god, why can't we all be as smart as no name face?


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Response Number 12
Name: Tony
Date: March 28, 2001 at 22:03:27 Pacific
Reply:

dam, i must be tired, i forgot how to spell
that should read, dos version, and apart.


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Response Number 13
Name: EK
Date: March 29, 2001 at 06:31:47 Pacific
Reply:

This was MY question and I do know why I asked it which if anybody read post #5 they would understand but I will rephrase here with more detail.
I have Windows 98 1st edition as part of a Windows NT 4.5 network and I knew DOS was underneath windows 9x. I needed to know what version it was so I could use the proper reference material.
I intend to write a program using DOS which I am fairly unfamilier with that will add customer records from a file created by an old text based BASIC program to an Outlook 2000 contact list. Information from the Outlook 2000 contact list will have to be shown as part of a customer lookup in this old text based accounting system. I figure this legacy language would not be able to handle calling anything like VB but would handle DOS.
Would the world be better if GUI never happened and it was still an all DOS world? . Maybe . But this is irrelevant to me and the person paying me.


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Response Number 14
Name: The Doof
Date: March 29, 2001 at 07:20:52 Pacific
Reply:

Hmm, most likely the the contact lists are done as comma separated values. You may be able to simply copy and paste the data into a text file and save in as *.csv and then choose File\Import\Address Book\Other\Comma Seperated values (CSV) in Outlook to merge the the data into the Outlook address book. Worth investigating as it would save you quite a bit of work. My 2 Canadian Pesos worth.



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Response Number 15
Name: EK
Date: March 29, 2001 at 07:56:22 Pacific
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Will need to do all this work. User will never leave legacy accounting system. He will hit one key which will call DOS program appending customers to contact list. Another key will call DOS program appending contact list to legacy customer file. Another key will provide just a lookup of contacts etc.
I am not even positive DOS is the right way to go a lot of experimentation will need to be done. I am not at that point in updating the program but I figured I would start preparing early.


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Response Number 16
Name: Tony
Date: March 29, 2001 at 11:50:43 Pacific
Reply:

TechGUY your answer was to the point.
This is now taken on a whole new meaning, which was not asked for at the start. perhaps a new query should be started?

Tony


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Response Number 17
Name: EK
Date: March 29, 2001 at 12:21:20 Pacific
Reply:

Probably right about another thread needed. I had planned to ask the first question about DOS version in windows ,get my answer then if I ran into trouble in my program ask about Outlook etc. But with 10 people wondering why in hell I wanted this info I felt I needed to show I had a very specific purpose.


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Response Number 18
Name: fred6008
Date: March 29, 2001 at 18:53:46 Pacific
Reply:

If you have dos, run MSD.exe and it will tell you what version of DOS these later versions of Windows are.


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Response Number 19
Name: Moiety
Date: March 29, 2001 at 19:58:30 Pacific
Reply:

...and another thing...

One can run standalone-realmode-no-windoze DOS 7.1 all day/nite. It's just like runnin DOS 6.22 w/o dosshell.exe.

Have come to prefer the security of stripped-down DOS 7(.1), relying on 3rd party utilities wherever possible. My batch files always work then...w/ ANY DOS.


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Response Number 20
Name: The Doof
Date: March 29, 2001 at 20:14:41 Pacific
Reply:

Moiety, you are a major freak. I like it. Will you have my man-babies?



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Response Number 21
Name: Seymore
Date: March 30, 2001 at 16:31:57 Pacific
Reply:


Maybe a little late but get something straight: that's Canadian DOLLARS, just like regular Dollars but not at all. Pesos are real (not real) money and come from Vietnam. Your ignorance sickens me.



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