After reading this post I think Bandit was talking about Jon.

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Ouch! Rough group. Bet every one forgot to take out the trash, got chewed out by the wife and now needs to vent. lol Get boot disk as mentioned above. Start puter Open cd Put cd in. (the coffe cup holder thingy) Close cd Insert boot disk in a: Reboot. Have a super day. W.L.

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heh, I was born knowing all. lol :) I think they were mad because he blamed his drive being overwritten by dos! The nerve of these people! hehe - W0rm

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What is this? Have a go at Jon day or something? If someone brings you a machine to look at it stands to reason they thought you could fix it. If Rick cannot manage to do this simple task then I'm curious why his friend thought he could fix it. Hence the blind leading the blind statement, which I don't see a problem with personally. Ronin you may like to learn everything but there are people who come here who just want a solution and nothing more, a detailed explanation can easily confuse in such a situation.

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I'm with Jon. Ronin, The fact that you could get access to the internet meant you could have got the info. say from...oh let me see. WWW.MICROSOFT.COM. It is their s'ware after all. All you needed was a boot up disk with CD ROm support. The WIN 95 or Win 98 are both sufficient for loading Win 95 and you could have probably created one from the PC you are on NOW if it is Win 9*. Have a blank floppy, click on START | SETTINGS | CONTROL PANEL. Select the ADD ? REMOVE Programs icon. Click on the 3rd Tab (I forget what it is called!!!) and select the Create start up disk. Simple. However the fact that you could not do this makes me worry about how you are going to use FDISK | FORMAT etc to get windows running. Good Luck because your going to need it.

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Hey why pick on me? If you guys think it is a waste of time to explain something that is fine by me. To each his own I say. Jon, there was no intent to offend you. I apologize if I did so. To answer your implication, yes I think it's important to know what one is doing, and I don't see anything wrong with it. Helper, I am not sure what you are going on about, nor why you would even direct comments at me. Since you're asking, I know of several methods of installing an OS, and with or without a cdrom drive. So you want to know if I know how to make a boot disk? Well yes, I don't need to download one. Do I know how to install windows? Yea, I know that too. Do I get info from Microsoft? It depends on what info you mean. My post directed at Jon was 100% sarcasm. Perhaps those with lesser acumen didn't understand that. At any rate, if this is a dos forum, why are you suggesting using windows to create a boot disk?

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Great point Ronin. This is a dos forum you know. There is nothing wrong with explaining something to a person. Hopefully he will get a better understanding if you can keep it simple. Thanks for all the great advice you give, for being nice, and all of your great input.

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This post needed to be posted in the Win9x forum anyway. Why didn't you gentlemen just kindly direct him there. As for this Helper guy he is one of those people that like to just jump in others business & try to get an argument started. Ignore him. He has obviously forgotten what forum this is also.

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How on earth do I keep getting into these situations. I don't mind giving a detailed explanation when asked for, but I'm not about to attempt to force my knowledge onto other people they don't usually appreciate it. Ronin, no offence taken mate.

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You guys are a great bunch of people. I have never seen two people have a disagreement & be so nice to each other. This is the way it is suppose to be. Some of the Windows forums here at computing.net need to take lessons from you guys. I took a visit into there forums and they get pretty ugly with each other.

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I had no idea this would result in such commotion either. Jon, I have read many of your replies, and I for one have gotten a lot out of them. Many other folks here are also rather informative. As far as an argument, I have no desire to flame anyone here -- a difference of opinion makes the world go round. David, thanks for the support.... I had no idea someone actually found my ponderings useful.

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Jeez! All I did was ask a simple question! This hard drive was completely erased when the guy brought it to me. Since the computer was still running, the guy kept moving files around from one drive to another, thus overwiting some of the info on drive c. His cd rom has is a cr-562-c. Maybe all that I need is an install disk for that cd rom. I have built a few computers (including the one I'm using now), so I know how to gwt them up and running if I have the proper install disks, etc. I was going to try the Windows98 start up disk from my computer, but thought that there might be conflicts between Win98 and Win95. Hey, I've got nothing to loose, right? To all of you that had useful answers, thanks. To all of you that just needed someone to vent on, it was at least amusing. Thanks, Rick

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Good news: I fixed the problem. Bad news: Not one of your answers helped. My original question gave you the manufacturers name, model number of the CD Rom, and manufacture date. Then I asked if anyone knew where I could get a copy of the Install disk for the CD Rom. Got a lot of answers, a few insults, and a whole bunch of flack. If you guys want to chat with your buddies, why not use a chat room and leave these forums for the people that came here for a solution!

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Hey it's not our fault that you don't know what you are doing. 9 times out of ten a Win98 boot disk will allow access to a CD-ROM independent of it's manufacturer. I ain't going to look for the exact driver for you I have better things to do, if you want it so badly go and find it yourself. There's a link on the left hand side of this page. If you don't know how to use it (it'd surprise me if you did) then go up to the top of this page and search for "CD-ROM" in the DOS forum. Any half decent person who builds there own computers should have been able to figure that out.

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"CR-562-C" Souds like a panasoic driver

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Jon Fox, You really ARE an obnoxious SOB, aren't you! A Win98 might work 9 out of 10 times. but not this one. As far as not knowing how to use a link, I've been on the Net for quite a while, and don't have any trouble clicking on a link. Seems to me that if you don't want to try to give someone a hand, there's no reason for you to res[ond to their message, is there? If you just want to give people a hard time, why not go to some place like obnoxious_are_us.com? Before you go looking, No, there isn't any such site that I know of...of course you could be the founder... My point, Jon, is there was no reason for you being insulting and down right rude! I wasn't asking you, or anyone else, for exact instructions on installing the driver, just a possible place for me to find one. I do realize, Jon, that you do know absolutely everything there is about a computer, and consequently, would never have any reason to come looking for a little help in resolving a problem, which is a good thing, because, after listening to your smarter than anyone attitude I'm not so sure anyone would be willing to offer you any advice. So, again, Jon, thanks for your input, it really brightened up my day :) Rick

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"Jon Fox, You really ARE an obnoxious SOB, aren't you!" Occasionally. "I do realize, Jon, that you do know absolutely everything there is about a computer" well not quite but I'm trying to achieve that. "would never have any reason to come looking for a little help in resolving a problem" no I prefer to work through things myself that's how I learn. The thing is I still have received more thanks for my help than comments like yours, a lot more in fact. Oh and thanks for the excellent dot com idea! I like it! I rekon it'd be better with an 'R' instead of "are" though. Possibly a bakwards one... No, wait I think that's been done.

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I don't want to put myself in the middle of this "discussion", however, there is a DOS based program out there that will allow you to install a CD-ROM drive without having the Install disk as I'm sure many of you already know. The program is called CDAnywhere and I have yet to find a CD-ROM drive that this program will not install. Understand however, that this is a DOS based program, I know it works with Win95, not sure if it will work with Win98.

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Jon it sounds like you need a life. Dont you have anything better to do than act like a third grader? Sometimes people just need a fast fix not a degree everyone does not want to know it all they just want to fix the problem on hand as easy as they can.

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I seriously can't be bothered to answer that, this was months ago. You could have at least read it through first, I did offer a quick fix. But just got rowed on and insulted for my effort, that's why I had a go at the guy. If you don't like it then tough.

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