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Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed

Original Message
Name: Columbo1977
Date: January 15, 2008 at 08:13:00 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
OS: ?
CPU/Ram: Around 486
Model/Manufacturer: Zenith Data Systems
Comment:
Hi All

I have an old laptop sat about cant remember exact spec but it is a 486 with about 24mb ram and a 1.4gb hdd.

I was wanting to put an O/S on it to mess about with but it only has a floppy drive and no usb, old type pcmcia and parallel so at the moment i cant connect one of the ext cd drives?

Any ideas, or does anyone know of a usb to parallel converter?

Thanks

Columbo1977

Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with computers and nobody thinks of complaining.
-Jeff Raskin-


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Response Number 1
Name: DosX
Date: January 15, 2008 at 08:32:21 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
I asume you would like dos that you can install from floppies:
FreeDOS floppy distribution: http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/

If you want something more classic:
IBM PC-DOS: ftp://ftp.boulder.ibm.com/software/dos/

or DR-DOS: http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/...



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Response Number 2
Name: Bicephale
Date: January 15, 2008 at 23:00:32 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
Hi,

Too bad you can't install 'MS-DOS v7.10a' from
a 'Win 98' CD! Of course, if you happen to have
it installed elsewhere (temporarily, in order
not to infringe the licensing, of course), it
should be easy enough to modify its Emergency
Boot Disk so that you can install 'MS-DOS' using
the 'Sys.COM' command, then an 'InterLnk' cable
will allow you to transfer the rest of the OS.


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Michel Samson
a/s Bicéphale


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Response Number 3
Name: Columbo1977
Date: January 15, 2008 at 23:40:39 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
to be honest I was wanting a gui type os?

Can I get one on disks other than Win 3.1?

Thanks

Columbo1977

Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with computers and nobody thinks of complaining.
-Jeff Raskin-


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Response Number 4
Name: wizard-fred
Date: January 16, 2008 at 01:20:33 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
With only 24MB ram you can use Win95 and maybe Win98.

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Response Number 5
Name: WebsWonder
Date: January 16, 2008 at 01:25:54 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
Ms-DOS and compatable have several GUI ad-ons, but multi-tasking is not a feature.

Try PuppyLinux......


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Response Number 6
Name: Columbo1977
Date: January 16, 2008 at 01:48:55 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
do you know where to get a floppy version on puppy linux as I was looking for that?

Thanks

Columbo1977

Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with computers and nobody thinks of complaining.
-Jeff Raskin-


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Response Number 7
Name: WebsWonder
Date: January 16, 2008 at 07:37:26 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
http://www.phystechsoft.com/ptsdos/...

PTS-DOS Trial Version includes Arachne Web Browser, if connect to internet could download other software....


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Response Number 8
Name: Columbo1977
Date: January 16, 2008 at 07:42:48 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
thanks for all the replies.

I will look at that but this laptop doesnt have a ethernet or usb ports so is not on the net. I would doownload the floppies from a different computer.


Thanks

Columbo1977

Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with computers and nobody thinks of complaining.
-Jeff Raskin-


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Response Number 9
Name: cup
Date: January 16, 2008 at 13:38:51 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
Do you have DOS 6.22? If you do, interlnk is your friend. Boot up 2 systems on DOS6.22, one as a slave and move anything you like across the parallel port. Only caveat is that whatever you move across must have 8.3 filenames.

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Response Number 10
Name: arisoue
Date: January 17, 2008 at 15:18:05 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
Have a look at Doscore (FreeDos + Ozone GUI) at http://www.phoenixos.net.tf/
I think it's worth it!

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Response Number 11
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: January 17, 2008 at 17:43:23 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
You can probably hook up an old parallel port zip drive to the laptop. From another computer copy the contents of the win98 folder on the 98 cd to a zip disk. Then copy that disk to the laptop hard drive and run the 98 setup. You'd need to add the zip dos drivers to a 98 bootdisk in order to get things going.


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Response Number 12
Name: WebsWonder
Date: January 17, 2008 at 22:56:49 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
This is a forum not related to Windows or Linux, any discussion about actually installing those O/Ses belongs elsewhere.....

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Response Number 13
Name: T-R-A
Date: January 18, 2008 at 22:06:06 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
>>>Any ideas, or does anyone know of a usb to parallel converter?<<<

Those do exist, but only to connect a parallel-port printer to a USB port on a computer; never seen one to connect a parallel port to a USB-device...

>>>to be honest I was wanting a gui type os?
Can I get one on disks other than Win 3.1?<<

There's several options for Win9x (though I have to agree, this is a DOS forum---and some of this is mentioned above):

1. Find a copy of Win95/98 on floppy. Quite difficult, hard to obtain (legally), and Win98 would be a drag on a 486-anything. Almost as difficult (1a): finding a PCMCIA CD-Rom Drive...

2. Copy CD-based install files (Win95/98 folder on CD) via parallel-port (Interlink-LPT Zip/CD) and install from HDD. Somewhat difficult, especially if you can't find drivers/devices or aren't familiar with interlink.

3. Create a spanned disk set of the CD install files zipped across several floppies and unzip to a empty directory on the laptop and (again) install from HDD. Less difficult, but tedeous and involves having many good-formatted floppies (around 24 for Win95A; >50 for Win95B and tons of them for Win95C/Win98) and knowledge of a DOS-based zip program (i.e.-PKZip). Some versions of the CD had the .cab files at 1.72MB (DMF Format) so if you had those available, you could essentially create a floppy-install set using a utility like WinImage.

4. Remove the HDD and attach to a working machine (using a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter) and copy CD install files to the laptop's HDD. Least difficult only if the drive is easily removed from the laptop and you're familiar with setting a drive up in another machine.

I urge using CD-based installation files for a HDD-style installation since using floppy-based files will cause the installation to fail (at least in Win95); the setup program is designed to look to the floppy for the files. Besides, if you had the floppy installation available, you wouldn't need to go to all the trouble...

Also, if you use an "9x Upgrade" CD, you'll have to have Win3.1 on floppy (first disk or "fake files" to upgrade to Win95; entire set for Win98).

One final note---you would likely want to keep the .cab files available on the HDD even after the installation, (i.e.--to setup internet access) since some programs (particularly Internet Explorers' connection wizard) call for them.


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Response Number 14
Name: WebsWonder
Date: January 19, 2008 at 09:23:28 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
This is still an inappropriate thread for the MS-DOS forum, and yes I am boring but please can you all go and play in the Windows forum, thankyou....

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Response Number 15
Name: jefro
Date: February 14, 2008 at 16:00:59 Pacific
Subject: Old Laptop OS Needed
Reply: (edit)
I did that once. I used interlnk/intersrv to use a type of parallel cable as access to a fully stocked machine. It is also called direct access or direct cable something like that in Win95 and up.

You could in fact use the serial cable.

The only floppy that I know of is Netbsd anymore. I guess you could put Zipslax on it too.

I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.


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