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new mobo DOS

Original Message
Name: brander
Date: August 11, 2006 at 23:22:00 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
OS: Real DOS from Win98
CPU/Ram: 3.0G/2G
Model/Manufacturer: Home made
Comment:
There seems to be no support for DOS CDRom drivers on my new Gigabyte 965-DS3 board. It will boot to DOS fine with a bootable CD but all cd drivers(ie oakcdrom.sys)then report that there is no cd drive on the system. There is no support for DOS from Intel or Gigabyte, so I wonder if anyone has another solution. The PATA disk controller is made by JMicron who also do not support DOS.

Of course, everything works in XP.


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Response Number 1
Name: dosser
Date: August 12, 2006 at 03:09:00 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
If you boot from CD and get a DOS Prompt then obviously the CD Drive will of been assigned a drive letter, maybe A: ?

"Real DOS from Win98" the last retail version of standalone DOS was 6.22.

Optical drive drivers are loaded from CONFIG.SYS/AUTOEXEC.BAT

http://www.computerhope.com/cdromd.htm


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Response Number 2
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: August 12, 2006 at 11:36:23 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
Post back contents of config.sys and autoexec.bat from the bootdisk you're using.

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Response Number 3
Name: brander
Date: August 12, 2006 at 11:51:39 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
Simple, here it is:
DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=OAKCDROM.SYS /D:MSCD001
COUNTRY=044,850,COUNTRY.SYS
This is the config.sys from the boot image on the CD(or the floppy I made it from). Yes it boots to drive A(and the floppy becomes drive B) but it always says no CDrom drives found and I have tried about 100 other ones instead of OAKCDROM and they all say the same thing. I haven`t put autoexec.bat here as it is irrelevant if the above driver does not find a CD drive.

I have tried many drives too, all of which normally work, but I think the culprit here is the Jmicron disk controller which just does not seem to support drives in DOS.


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Response Number 4
Name: brander
Date: August 12, 2006 at 11:56:05 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
Aside from CDroms, I agree the last "official" DOS release was 6.22, but if you transfer the system from Win98 and use the files in its |command folder you get a very good DOS which supports FAT32 and does everything that 6.22 does except defrag.

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Response Number 5
Name: dosser
Date: August 12, 2006 at 12:41:24 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
Have you tried the UltraDMA Drivers ??

http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/


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Response Number 6
Name: brander
Date: August 12, 2006 at 15:18:33 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
Thanks for the info Dosser, I tried QCDROM and QHimem bit it still says no CD/DVD drives on system. I really think that the ide controller maker has just dropped any DOS support because it works fine in XP and I have tried just about everything now. There are no bios settings for the controller other than on/off.

Conversely, a USB pendrive works fine in DOS without any drivers loaded. It becomes the B: drive which is nice.


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Response Number 7
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: August 12, 2006 at 20:18:17 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
The driver download page for that motherboard says it doesn't support 9X or ME. It doesn't mention dos but that may be implied.

Under the SATA driver download is this message, '. . .press F6 during Windows setup to read from floppy'. The manual may explain that in more detail but possibly hitting F6 prevents built-in SATA drivers from loading, thereby allowing a bootdisk to see the cdrom.


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Response Number 8
Name: dosser
Date: August 13, 2006 at 00:45:43 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
MS-DOS works at a lower level than Windows therefore usually IDe controller drivers are not required, even some older PC's with on-board SCSI would work without drivers.


I do appreciate that NT4/W9x support has been dropped from Motherboard Chipsets. Is there any settings under the Optical Drive Listing in BIOS to change the mode usually available are PIO and DMA !


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Response Number 9
Name: dosser
Date: August 13, 2006 at 01:01:57 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
F6 is purely a means to flag up to a NT based O/S that you wish to offer additional drivers, it has no relevence to MS-DOS whatsoever.



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Response Number 10
Name: brander
Date: August 13, 2006 at 12:08:19 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
I have tried that driver for using with F6 while installing Windows, but those are 32-bit drivers and are anyway only for the built-in Intel SATA controller and then only if using RAID or hot-swap drives.

I am now wondering when SATA CDrom drives will arrive and then will they work with our old DOS drivers.


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Response Number 11
Name: Petit Jean
Date: August 14, 2006 at 10:13:49 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
Try the hardware independent dos cdrom driver eltorito.sys.
http://www.nu2.nu/eltorito/
Good luck.

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Response Number 12
Name: brander
Date: August 14, 2006 at 13:26:11 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
Thanks Petit Jean, but the eltorito driver says the same as all the other ones: no CDrom drive found despite the fact that bootable cdroms boot up fine to the A drive.


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Response Number 13
Name: dosser
Date: August 15, 2006 at 07:46:02 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
Have you installed just a IDE hard drive as master and the CD as Slave and disbaled SATA in BIOS ???

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Response Number 14
Name: exenia
Date: August 24, 2006 at 08:36:28 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
Hmm... I am having the exact same problem- new Gigabyte board that's not able to load any cdrom drivers.

What I've tried so far is swapping between multiple optical drives, usually with no hard drive attached at all, and updated the firmware on all of them.

Brander, one of the other things I tested was using a PATA>SATA cable converter. Sorry to say, I don't think you're going to have any better success with a drive that's natively SATA.

I'm still looking around for a solution, the system obviously reads the CD well enough to boot, so there has to be a way to hook back into it afterward- Er, right?



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Response Number 15
Name: gigabyte
Date: August 24, 2006 at 23:25:22 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
GIGA-BYTE solved it.

http://marktsai0316.googlepages.com/gcdromfordos


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Response Number 16
Name: brander
Date: September 11, 2006 at 10:28:59 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
Yes the driver gcdrom.sys works now. Thanks.

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Response Number 17
Name: v-lan
Date: October 6, 2006 at 09:07:24 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
Dear all,
the same problem...!!!! I'm sure the problem is on the new SATA Controller thet does not support IDE under dos.
please can someone tell me where to find the gcdrom.sys driver. The above link does not work and i can't find sth on gigabyte site.


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Response Number 18
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 6, 2006 at 16:59:52 Pacific
Subject: new mobo DOS
Reply: (edit)
There's a download for it here:

http://www.bootinfo.net/cgi-bin/tec...


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