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Name: seanlemur
Date: July 21, 2004 at 05:56:50 Pacific
Subject: networking with dos
OS: dos 7.10
CPU/Ram: shouldn't matter
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Yes, it's me again. I'm trying to figure out a way to put a computer with a dos OS on a windows network (or really any kind of network, for that matter). I tried using ms-dos network client, but for some reason whenever I open up the popup menu (with ctrl-alt-n), my computer freezes. Did anyone here use dos for networking purposes in college, or anything? I'll take any suggestions.


Long live DOS, and down with computer illiteracy.


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Response Number 1
Name: name
Date: July 21, 2004 at 06:50:35 Pacific
Subject: networking with dos
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I used DOS YEARS ago, and can't offer only this:

Have you been to "Helmig's" excellant website, www.wown ?


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Response Number 2
Name: 4004
Date: July 21, 2004 at 07:16:45 Pacific
Subject: networking with dos
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In standalone DOS, Network Client 3 works though you need to set it up with TCP/IP protocol and also set it up as both Client and Server to be able to communicate see:

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/dosclien.htm

Though you need to undertake careful memory management, as it will lock up if I believe 400K base memory is not available.

The best product to use is Lantastic which supports Windows and DOS:

http://www.spartacom.com/products/lantastic.htm

If you need to include Mac's and Unix/Linux then NWC3 is best, but Microsoft also produced LanManger prior to NWC3, which is avbailable though I have never used.


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Response Number 3
Name: Hmmm
Date: July 21, 2004 at 12:35:06 Pacific
Subject: networking with dos
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Why does TCP/IP NEED to be used? http://www.hippy.freeserve.co.uk/msdosnet.htm
http://www.dossolutions.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/network.htm
http://www.dendarii.co.uk/FAQs/dos-net.html


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Response Number 4
Name: 4004
Date: July 21, 2004 at 12:54:49 Pacific
Subject: networking with dos
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seanlemur wrote "or really any kind of network, for that matter"

Windows XP does not come with NetBeui/NetBios
as standard it is an add-on, IPX/SX is included but this is for Novell Compatibility.

Apple Macs have since OS 7.5.x (I believe) have used MacTCP (TCP/IP)

Unix/Linux use SAMBA which works best with TCP/IP I am reliably informed.

TCP/IP is the WWW standard etc etc etc and did you also read:

http://www.mwpms.uklinux.net
&
http://members.nccw.net/fmacall/

FYI the only current link out of the three you quoted is DOSSOLUTIONS


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Response Number 5
Name: bbaca
Date: July 23, 2004 at 09:01:06 Pacific
Subject: networking with dos
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My suggestion is install Windows for Workgroups.

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=windows%20for%20workgroups&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wf

I am currently running it on my old 486 so I could get on the Internet (and it does) to download all those old games I wish I still had. Unfortunately, I cannot get IE 5 to work (it claims it can, but always gives me some cryptic memory error). Netscape 4.5 or something does work though.

The biggest problem I had was finding a 100mbit card supported by such on old OS (8meg/sec transfers are hard to give up). I believe I used a 3C905, but don't quote me on it.

Good luck! And yes, WFW with a good card and TCP/IP can use network shares on XP boxes (since NetBEUI was the protocol of choice preXP).


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