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Need help with DOS 3.2

Original Message
Name: znick
Date: January 12, 2007 at 12:30:48 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
OS: DOS 3.2
CPU/Ram: No idea
Model/Manufacturer: Compaq Portable ll
Comment:
Hello,
I have a Compaq Portable ||, the mode which has the 5 1/4 floppy drive and the 10 meg hard drive. I am looking for help similiar to a problem that I read earlier. I keep getting the "Run Setup" and "Time/Date Not Set" error. I opened the computer and was trying to find out where the CMOS battery was, since that's what alot of people are saying. I saw what seemed to be a AA battery. Is this the CMOS battery? If I replace this, should I be able to set the Time/Date? Or do I need the 3.2 discs? Also, I have the DOS 5 upgrade, but it apparently won't read them? Any help?

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Response Number 1
Name: orbital
Date: January 12, 2007 at 12:47:43 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
5.25 disk drives support different floppy disk either 360K or 720K or 1.2MB as well as single or double density so you need compatable media.

AFAIK to rest the BIOS configuration you require the setup diskettes

battery sorry do not know...


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Response Number 2
Name: jboy
Date: January 12, 2007 at 15:11:32 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
Yeah, those old boxes didn't have a CMOS as such - that probably is the system or 'real time clock' battery - while it doubtless needs replacing, as mentioned you likely require the setup disks


fwiw 5¼" drives were 360K or 1.2Mb - it's 720K & 1.44Mb that are 3½"

I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter


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Response Number 3
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: January 12, 2007 at 15:59:03 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
Is the computer booting up to a dos prompt with the hard drive? If so, at the prompt you can type DATE or TIME and enter to set them. Once you do that the date and time will be maintained while the PC is running.

To retain the date and time when the PC is off it's likely you need to replace the battery, as already mentioned.

Many of the clocks on those older ones needed separate software to set and read the date and time. In that era there were many add-on cards that would keep the time and they all had their own software. Hopefully your compaq originally came with the time feature and if software is needed it's probably still available on their site.

But first replace the battery, set the time and date via the dos commands and then see if they're maintained while the computer is off. If so you don't need to hunt down any clock software.


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Response Number 4
Name: znick
Date: January 12, 2007 at 16:38:06 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
i replaced the battery already, but I don't get a DOS prompt, I am still getting the 162 System Operations Not Set(Run Setup) and the 163 Date/Time Not Set

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Response Number 5
Name: jboy
Date: January 12, 2007 at 16:40:26 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
Oh, right - it's that old classic "Luggable" - for sure, those would be 360K drives, so they won't read high density diskettes

Actually have one of those, but it's not handy at the moment - I believe that's an 8 bit (8088) XT class, and I don't recall there being any setup disks

I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter


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Response Number 6
Name: znick
Date: January 12, 2007 at 16:47:43 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
well, is there a way to just reset the BIOS and maybe it will come online?

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Response Number 7
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: January 12, 2007 at 16:55:52 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
A previous thread gave this link to the setup and dos 3.1 disks for that model:

http://www.z80.de/alex/compaq/index...

It looks like a german page but the download links are english. The download file extensions are .dsk. I'm not sure about that but there is a link to a download for CopyQM which I think may be intended to be used to extract the .dsk downloads.

Also I'm sure the compaq SP file to create the setup disk is on their ftp site here:

ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/

If you open the 'allfiles.txt' file it may give a description of the SP files there.


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Response Number 8
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: January 12, 2007 at 17:10:02 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
Of course the problem you're going to have is you need a working 360K drive in another computer in order to create the setup disk.

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Response Number 9
Name: jboy
Date: January 12, 2007 at 17:12:03 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
WinImage should be able to open .DSK files

"... just reset the BIOS"

Those machines had nothing recognizable as a 'BIOS' - - different era

I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter


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Response Number 10
Name: jboy
Date: January 12, 2007 at 17:16:13 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
... a 1.2Mb 5¼" can work - not the commonest of things either though. Might consider removing the "B:" drive from the Compaq and using it in a working machine - assuming it's in good condition, and you have the correct cable

I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter


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Response Number 11
Name: znick
Date: January 12, 2007 at 17:37:40 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
I read that you can reset the BIOS with the jumpers inside, I don't have a drive to get the 5 1/4 discs

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Response Number 12
Name: znick
Date: January 12, 2007 at 17:41:12 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
Does anybody have the DOS 3.2 disks that they are willing to give me?

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Response Number 13
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: January 12, 2007 at 18:18:56 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
On a computer with a cmos-type bios setup you can jumper the appropriate pins on the motherboard to clear it. You don't have a cmos-type bios setup. You need to use the compaq setup disk.

As mentioned above you're going to need to use a computer with a working 5 1/4 drive to create the necessary disk(s). Or you need to find someone that has the disks and will let you use them.

You can download 3.1 from the link I gave above. It should be adequate unless you intend to run some software that needs 3.2. You could also check places like ebay for OS disks.


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Response Number 14
Name: znick
Date: January 12, 2007 at 18:32:11 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
alright thanks, but if anyone still has the disks, let me know

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Response Number 15
Name: znick
Date: January 12, 2007 at 18:58:57 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
if I provide the link for the disks, can somebody make the disks and send them to me?

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Response Number 16
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: January 12, 2007 at 23:16:06 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
I'd have to put together a computer with 5 1/4 drives and it would be a few weeks before I could do that. I've got some 3.3 disks but I'd still need the computer to copy them. If you haven't found another source you can send me a private message in a few weeks.

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Response Number 17
Name: orbital
Date: January 13, 2007 at 01:21:47 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
Sorry JBOY but 720K disks did exist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy...

..though appreciate not relevent in this situation.


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Response Number 18
Name: jboy
Date: January 13, 2007 at 01:27:25 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
Well, that was 'fun'... we should do this more often

I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter


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Response Number 19
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: January 13, 2007 at 15:59:39 Pacific
Subject: Need help with DOS 3.2
Reply: (edit)
You may be able to format a 5 1/4 disk to 720K but that was never an IBM standard.

And if we're going to be picky there are 1.2 meg, 3 1/2 drives--the 'mode 3 floppy support' you see on the bios setup page. It's the PC98 format:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy...



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