This particular game requires 580k of conventional memory. With the actual configuration it only has

340k and it won't run (also won't run in windows). I have these config files:
config.sys
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM
FILES=40
BUFFERS=40
devicehigh=c:\Windows\command\ebd\oakcdrom.sys /d:mscd001

autoexec.bat
@ECHO OFF
C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE
LH C:\MSDOS7\attrib.exe -h -s C:\MSDOS7
set mouse=C:\imouse
LH C:\imouse\imouse
SET PATH=C:\NC;c:\Windows;c:\Windows\command
LH c:\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001
REM C:\windows\system32\sndinit.exe
REM ***** SiS7018 PCI AUDIO *****
LH C:\TP7P5FIX
LH C:\WINDOWS\system32\SNDINIT.EXE/INIT /FC:\WINDOWS\system32\TSSND.INI
LH C:\WINDOWS\system32\SNDTSR.EXE

I ran the MEM utility and the results were:

Mem. type total used free
Conventional 640K 170K 470K
Upper 0K 0K 0K
Reserved 0K 0K 0K
Extended 261,0 9,296K 251,760K
56K
Total expanded (EMS) - 32M
Largest executable program- 470K
Largest free Upper Memory Block -0K
MS-DOS is resident in high memory area.
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I can't give up on any of the programs in autoexec.bat. Please tell me how can I run the game (running

EMM with NOEMS or EMS increasing hasn't worked).

aqz

"LH C:\MSDOS7\attrib.exe -h -s C:\MSDOS7"
"LH C:\WINDOWS\system32\SNDTSR.EXE"

If it is standalone MSDOS how come it has Windows installed?? MS-DOS7 was never officially a standaloe product.

If you had used MS-DOS6.2x, PC-DOS 7, PTS-DOS or DR-DOS 600K is entirely feasible.

Possibly you need a 3rd party memory manager, try QEMM:
http://www.chsoft.com/dv.html

http://www.hildrum.com/memory.htm

Couple of things - ditch oakcdrom.sys - it uses about 25K of RAM - replace with VIDE-CDD.SYS which uses only 5K. That's assuming you require CD access in DOS for this game - if not, you could setup a separate configuration using the built-in DOS menuing system (multiconfig).

Use the 'NOEMS' parameter - the 'RAM' switch allocates a wadge of memory for the page frame - if you don't need EMS (Expanded) memory - and you probably don't:

C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS

This is running from a DOS start I hope, and not shelled out from Winders - (Largest free Upper Memory Block -0K)

You could also trim your buffers & files down considerably, and/or try fileshigh

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

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LH attrib.exe ??(missed that)

... the hell??

It's not a resident command (for one thing)

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

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Under Win95A boot hit F8 choose Command Prompt (ie MS-DOS 7.0x) the most base memory withot CD and Mouse support and using NOEMS was 576k, even using Memmaker still the same.

If you use MS-DOS 6.22 & Memmaker you should be able to obtain 600k or use different MS-DOS compatible O/S, not the ones under or hacked from Windows.

Fresh MS-DOS 6.22 (3 disk install) I have achieved 576k without memory mangement and without CD & Mouse Drivers and using SET Blaster for the Sound Card Parameters.

Utilising Memmaker with NOEMS or RAM Option 617K.

Maybe this proves that a Standalone Line Command O/S without GUI intregrated on top is better?? at least with MS-DOS compatible GUI's you can unload from memory!

Win9x can be setup that way as well - the GUI is the default, but that's not writ in stone.

As well, using plain vanilla Win95, I have *well* over 600K free after a DOS boot, loading the CD driver and a half dozen other items - a lot depends on the choices made

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

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YES if you know how to undertake complicated setup, but I was just using memmaker to undertake the memory mangement, it is what I term an out of the box solution.............576k t0 617K is not bad!

Memmaker is a flawed program - but better than nothing, I suppose. Sure, around 580K is pretty reasonable in that scenario

Complicated? Not really, although an understanding of memory management is a prerequisite. Experimentation (and DOS 'Help') is the way to get a little more

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

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Many DOS games that require that kind of memory have a text file to instruct the user to build a boot disk (sometimes specific to that particular game) to reclaim some low memory and play the game.

It's worth a look...

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