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Paraphrased:
1st question:
Using LFN Tools (LMD.EXE)to constuct win98 folder structure from boot floppy. I use LFN's LCD.exe to change DIR (Navigate to & from)& LMD.exe to make DIR's, all goes well until e.g I use X:(RAMDISK)\LMD.EXE(1 space)"C:\Winmini\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch" [Details in brackets are for explanation purposes only]. To my frustration the Quick Launch DIR is created alright, but 1 level back along side Internet Explorer (4th Level)not a DIR level lower than Internet explorer. Is it that LFN Tools will only make DIR's to 4 DIR levels deep or is there something I'm doing wrong, or possibly need to do something in addition to the "Enclose" (inverted coma's)? I'm not really sure I've explained myself properly, but I'm sure of this, someone will slaughter me if I haven't - LOL! My DOS skills are weak!
2nd Question:
Is there a newbies area/forum for DOS questions where basic questions can be asked because I've got lots more up my sleeve?
Regards,
sheepishly Dave.

:: C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch
lmd c:\winmini
OK
lmd "c:\winmini\Application Data"
OK
lmd "c:\winmini\Application Data\Microsoft"
OK
lmd "c:\winmini\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer"
OK
lmd "c:\winmini\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch"
OK
lcopy c:\test1.bat "c:\winmini\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch"
1 file copiedWorks like gang busters here, perhaps you are not taking full advantage of copy and paste when building batch files? Otherwise perhaps your DOS environment isn't up to snuff? I did notice that lcopy wouldn't work on the quoted short name version of folders, said it couldn't find the destination path and just plain lcopy test1.bat (no c:\ as above and I was AT C:\) said it couldn't find the source path? Definitely a learning curve here.

Regarding Response No4
You Live & Learn!
Firstly many thanks Melee5 for your response,Question 1?
Ref: "perhaps you are not taking full advantage of copy and paste when building batch files?" - Please elaborate, in what context?
Question 2?
Ref: "Otherwise perhaps your DOS environment isn't up to snuff?" - Are you refering to possibly inreasing memory allocation to command.com?Roamer_1 has previously hinted at possible problems with short file names when using LFN Tools.
All the best,
Dave

"Are you refering to possibly inreasing memory allocation to command.com?"
How would one do that?
Increasing the amount of memory available for the DOS environment in DOS622 (and earlier) is recommended, but the default under DOS7 appears to be 1424 bytes - usually sufficient, although it can be upped to 4096 (max) if necessary
Also, the PATH limit is 127 characters
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

Re Response No6 from jboy
Sorry! Had to go out tonight, was in a rush, to post message to melee5. jboys right, please replace in question 2 ref"Otherwise perhaps your DOS environment isn't up to snuff?" - Do you think I need to increase the Environment space?
Too many late nights & less haste more progress. It's a good job your there jboy.
regards,
"Stands corrected!"

I'd be inclined to doubt it. While previous DOS versions defaulted to a paltry 160K or so, even that was usually enough unless you were using lots of environment memory with the SET= statement, either from the command line or from autoexec or other .bats
I don't know if LFN tools would have any special requirements in this area - you can try bumping it up some with a SHELL statement, but I wouldn't think it would be necessary.
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

.. er - that should read 160 bytes - off by a few orders of magnitude
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

Mucho Gracias, everyone for your advisory postings,
jboy - What is the trade off for setting E: to 4096? Sorry, I'm asking questions again?
I will now go away and try out suggestions for what is good advice without action? I will let you know how I get on!
Regards,
Dave.

It'll reduce the amount of conventional memory available - but we're only talking about a few Kb.
I don't think that's it, but no harm in trying.
Ah, the infamous quote (reputed to be apocryphal)
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

Having success tonight jboy - (Nice quotes)
The DIR Structure is being compiled nicely don't want to get too enthusiastic as this is not one of Bill Gates quotes but equally relevant as "Murphy's Law" might kick in. "If it can go wrong, it will go wrong" or words to that effect & pardon the pun but that, "Ought to be enough for anybody" - LOL!
Signing off now, Many thanks!
Dave

Sounds encouraging - was it the amount of environment space after all?
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

Re Response No14 jboy,
I started to rem the line, then changed my mind in mid-flow and tried the trailing backslash option offered by Mechanix2Go but that had no effect. So I then deleted all the text and rebuilt the instructions in a more systematic manner but only did a portion of it to test, I then re-tested with 5 & 6 DIR's deep as examples using LCD.exe & LMD.exe.
"Hey Presto", It worked, I've only now got to check the folders now match the Windows Directory to ensure completion but things are looking very favourable.
I think I will change the "E:" (Environment space) to a midway region say 2048 & retest anyway and use MEM.exe to check Conventional memory useage. At the end of the day, I will have to concede the faults were due to operator error & not enough ZZZZZZZZZZ
Thanks everyone,
Dave.

Sure - simplifying things usually helps to get a handle on stubborn problems.
It's said you learn more by failing than succeeding, but it seems like you're making progress.
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

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