Not many of us would have a use for join or even debug, but I think that most of the others mentioned are bordering on necessities. Sure, you can 'get by' on the internal commands - depends on what the end goal is I suppose (I'd be lost without Dosshell, edit or ansi.sys) We have nothing against ideas. We're against people spreading them. - General Augusto Pinochet of Chile

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Hi jboy, I found a utility to create a debug script. Works great.

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MS-DOS 6.22 will only boot under normal circumstances from a Bootable Floppy Diskette or a Primary C:\ Partition. That is unless you use some form of boot manager. I see no point in installing MS-DOS 6.22 onto a Windows 98/98se computer in the first place since the WinDOS 7.10 (aka MS-DOS 7.10) will do almost anything 6.22 will do and more. To run Windows 3.1 (with a few limitations) its needs a little help with 3XSTART but apart from that it is a usable DOS version. Look at Wengiers MS-DOS 7.10 page to see that (MS-DOS 7.10 is nothing more than a hacked version of WinDOS 7.10 from 98se) since M$ have not released any new version after 6.22 to the general public. If you are installing 6.22 to a 2GB Drive which is the maximum size it will work with by the way. What differance is the 2 to 4 MBs C:\DOS Directory anyway? However - This is my essential utility list: FDISK - To prepare drive (Then not needed) FORMAT, SYS & LABEL to produce diskettes EDIT to prepare Autoexec & Config files DOSHELP & QBASIC which is needed to run it EMM386 & HIMEM for Memory Management COUNTRY & KEYB (IF outside the USA) MSCDEX for CD-ROM Support DOSSHELL as a basic user interface (DOSSHELL is not supplied with MS-DOS 6.2x) (But can be found on the Supplimental Disk) I am sure many poeple would like to ADD or DELETE items from the list. One of the first things I did when I obtained MS-DOS 6.22 was to fully install it onto a harddrive then copied all the expanded utilitys onto 5 Diskettes ranging from usefull on Disk 1 to Useless on Disk 5 so that I always had access to them when needed. (Today these live on a CD/R with all versions of Windows 3x expanded) Please reply with a message to let us all know we are on the right track...

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Sure - if the person is just using DOS as a stepping stone to Win3x then they may not need (or even be aware of) the external commands - which is too bad, and pretty limiting too. Ah well Mechanix - that's good. I hadn't forgotten, it's been in the back of my mind - just been distracted by some recent hardware acquisitions I'm just looking for clues at the scene of the crime

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The reason I asked the originator what he was trying to do is so he wouldn't hose up a usable 9x drive. I see no reply. Hopefully he's read all this and learned something. M2 Mechanix2Go@Golden-Triangle.com

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Yeah - I don't know why, but the old DOS/Win31 forums seem to be blessed with an abundance of these 'one post wonders' who ask a question and yet don't seem to be able to bring themselves to acknowledge the responses - or worse (to my mind), go on to post more questions. Maybe the practice is just more noticeable here then say in the Win9x or the very busy XP forums. Justin has even been kind enough to suggest it in the 'Terms and Rules' section - - but we know how widely read those are ; ) (not to mention Mick's sig) I'm just looking for clues at the scene of the crime

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Hi jboy, I guess Justin is the sysop? I tried to follow a link to another user (and to myself) and got this: You must be coming from Computing.Net to use this feature. If you feel you are getting this message in error, please check to ensure your firewall software is not interfering with communications between your browser and this site. Any solutions? M2 Mechanix2Go@Golden-Triangle.com

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Hi - yeah, Justin Weber is the owner/webmaster of computing.net I've encountered that as well - not sure if it's a cookie issue, but sometimes (always?) if you spawn different windows to access the site, you're not recognized as being logged in. Was never sure if this was an Opera 'recognition' problem or not. I guess not. Maybe try pasting the URL in from your current (logged in) window. I'm just looking for clues at the scene of the crime

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Hi jboy, You're right. Some pages don't like a spawn. The paste didn't work either. My cookies work with ebay yahoo my bank etc, so I guess that's not it. TY M2 Mechanix2Go@Golden-Triangle.com

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Hmm, I don't know then. Kind of roundabout, but if it's a post, you could use the # in 'message find' - that should maintain your logged in status I'm just looking for clues at the scene of the crime

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