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Name: Actor
Date: May 10, 2006 at 05:31:00 Pacific
OS: DOS 6.22
CPU/Ram: AMD-K6
Product: Motherboard
Comment:

I want to install DOS 6.22 to replace an existing Win 98
OS. The machine has an 8 GByte drive that is partitioned
into four 2 GByte particians, C:, D:, E;, F: Only the C: drive
has anything on it; the rest are blank but usable. I have
no interest in keeping the existing Win 98 OS or data.

Questions:

(1)Is it necessary to start over with FDisk or can I simply
reformat C: and install DOS?

(2)How can I tell if the existing partitions are Fat 16? If C:
is Fat 32 can I change it to Fat 16 when reformatting? Do
all partitions have to be the same Fat?

(3)Is DOS 6.22 compatible with a 2GByte drive or do I have
to create a smaller partitian?



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Response Number 1
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: May 10, 2006 at 06:15:30 Pacific
Reply:

You'll need FAT16 partitions for DOS 6.22

Assuming the existing primary pertition is FAT32, you'll need to delete logical drives, then delete extended and funally the primary.

Then create primary active.

2GB is about the limit [2047?]

Good luck


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If at first you don't succeed, you're about average.

M2



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Response Number 2
Name: Mike Newcomb
Date: May 10, 2006 at 11:40:25 Pacific
Reply:

Run FDISK.

This is the dos program that details / deletes / sets up partitions.

Then run FORMAT if required.

Good Luck - Keep us posted.


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Response Number 3
Name: TopFarmer
Date: May 10, 2006 at 15:58:21 Pacific
Reply:

When you run Fdisk to create the new partitions be sure to say NO (Fat16) to large disk support, if you put Yes it will be Fat32.


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Response Number 4
Name: T-R-A
Date: May 10, 2006 at 17:51:03 Pacific
Reply:

>>>"When you run Fdisk to create the new partitions be sure to say NO (Fat16) to large disk support, if you put Yes it will be Fat32."<<<

You'd have to run FDISK from DOS 6.22. And it won't ask about FAT32/FAT16 support (since DOS 6.22 is from c.1994 and FAT32 from c.1997). Any existing FAT32 partitions probably appear as Non-DOS partitions to 6.22 (and should be blown away if possible before FDISK/FORMAT). If DOS can't handle them (I've seen a few times it wouldn't), then Google "delpart"...


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Response Number 5
Name: name
Date: May 10, 2006 at 22:17:30 Pacific
Reply:

I'm not all that super duper with fdisk, but this has worked for me:

use a late Windows98 bootdisk with the latest version of fdisk that you can find, and REMOVE all partitions of all/any kind, DOS, non dos, etc.

Then boot with your 6.22 disk and use it to create your DOS partition. While you're at it, you might make a second partition for DOS.

Then, you can install whatever else in the free space.


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Response Number 6
Name: Actor
Date: May 10, 2006 at 23:48:27 Pacific
Reply:

The disk was originally formatted with DOS 5.0, then
upgraded to 6.22, then Win 98 was installed. If the
original DOS 5.0 partition was Fat 16, wouldn't it still be?



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Response Number 7
Name: jubalsams
Date: May 11, 2006 at 00:41:05 Pacific
Reply:

Start 6.22 fdisk and it will tell you if it's not a DOS system partition, that is, FAT32 will not show as a usable partition.

Best
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Response Number 8
Name: T-R-A
Date: May 11, 2006 at 00:54:57 Pacific
Reply:

>>>"The disk was originally formatted with DOS 5.0, then upgraded to 6.22, then Win 98 was installed. If the original DOS 5.0 partition was Fat 16, wouldn't it still be?"<<<

Not if it was converted to FAT32 by Win98. There's a FAT32 converter in Win98SE (maybe also FE) to convert the drive after installation...


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Response Number 9
Name: Actor
Date: May 11, 2006 at 02:39:24 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for all the help, guys.

OK. I repartitioned the drive with FDisk from the DOS 5.0
disks, then installed DOS 6.22. Not as traumatic as I had
feared.

FDIsk seems to have repartitioned and formatted the
remainder of the drive into D:, E:, and F: drives, but I seem
to have lost the CD ROM drive, which formerly was D: (I
think).

One last question: the C: drive has a file named
WINA20.386. What is that?


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Response Number 10
Name: T-R-A
Date: May 11, 2006 at 04:54:26 Pacific
Reply:

>>>"I repartitioned the drive with FDisk from the DOS 5.0 disks, then installed DOS 6.22. Not as traumatic as I had feared."<<<

You could have went straight to DOS 6.22, even if they were upgrade disks:

http://www.computing.net/dos/wwwboard/forum/15954.html

>>>"but I seem to have lost the CD ROM drive, which formerly was D:"<<<

You'll need a DOS driver to access the CDROM using DOS. If it's IDE, then Google "ide158.exe" or get it here:

http://www.mitsumi.com/enduser/1_drivers.html

>>>"WINA20.386. What is that?"<<<

http://bbs.actapricot.org/files/area37/wintip.txt


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Response Number 11
Name: name
Date: May 11, 2006 at 13:43:09 Pacific
Reply:

""FDIsk seems to have repartitioned and formatted the
remainder of the drive into D:, E:, and F: drives, but I seem
to have lost the CD ROM drive, which formerly was D:""


Well, it didn't do that all by itself. You need to pay attention to what fdisk is "going to do", and run it again, if you don't like the layout. Personally, what I'd do is partition just one or maybe two partitions for FAT16, and after getting them set up, use W98 to partition the free space left for FAT32

first, fdisk for DOS6xx, "active"

next, fdisk for a DOS6xx stoage partition

Reboot with 9x, then

fdisk what you want that is left into a FAT32 partition, if desired.


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Response Number 12
Name: Actor
Date: May 11, 2006 at 17:42:34 Pacific
Reply:

" 'FDIsk seems to have repartitioned and
formatted the remainder of the drive into D:, E:, and F:
drives, but I seem to have lost the CD ROM drive, which
formerly was D:'

Well, it didn't do that all by itself."

I think it did do it all by itself. The automatic reformatting of D;,E:,F: is kind of serendipitous. Saves me the trouble of doing it
manually.

"You'll need a DOS driver to access the CDROM
using DOS. If it's IDE, then Google "ide158.exe" or get it
here:"

In restrospect the loss of the CD ROM drive
was to be expected. As it turned out I had the driver on a
floppy next to the DOS disks in the same box. Once that
was installed I began to get "not enough drive letters" or
some such message. After a little research I figured out I
had to add "LASTDRIVE=H" to the CONFIG.SYS file.

The computer is now running pretty much the way I want.
It's going to stay a DOS box, thank you, no Windows on this one.

Again, thanks for all the help guys and girls.


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