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Original Message
Name: Valerie (by Garibaldi)
Date: March 15, 2005 at 17:40:39 Pacific
Subject: Edit fonts
OS: Dos.7.10
CPU/Ram: p100/48
Comment:

I am looking for a display of the fonts used by the Dos Edit program when using the Alt+keypad feature. It differs from the one used in Notepad & Wordpad in Windows.

Thanks


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Response Number 1
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: March 15, 2005 at 18:40:12 Pacific
Subject: Edit fonts
Reply: (edit)

Hi,

Do you mean the ASCII chart for the chatacters entered with ALT-NUMkey, like:

¥

M2


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Response Number 2
Name: Valerie (by Garibaldi)
Date: March 15, 2005 at 18:43:52 Pacific
Subject: Edit fonts
Reply: (edit)

Yes but the only ones found so far cover Notepad etc but not ms-dos Edit prog which seems to have its own characters


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Response Number 3
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: March 15, 2005 at 20:33:27 Pacific
Subject: Edit fonts
Reply: (edit)

Hi Virginia,

I think almost any editor will conform to the standard ASCII codes. So that 157=¥ and so forth.

If DOS EDIT does not show these chars, likely it is stripping the 'high bit'.

Get a decent DOS editor, like VDE from Eric Meyer.

M2


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Response Number 4
Name: Valerie (by Garibaldi)
Date: March 15, 2005 at 23:00:32 Pacific
Subject: Edit fonts
Reply: (edit)

Therein lies the enigma.

In the ASCII conversion chart shown at http://www.csun.edu/itr/guides/ascii-chart.html
¥ is shown as ALT+165

I shall try the DOS editor you mentioned.

Thanks


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Response Number 5
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: March 15, 2005 at 23:34:19 Pacific
Subject: Edit fonts
Reply: (edit)

Hi Virginia,

That site is apparently referring to the codes to put certain chars into html, or their timing chain has skipped a tooth.

This looks more in sync with what I use:

http://www.lookuptables.com/

FWIW. ¥ is 157 in:

Word
Wordpad
Excel
QuickBasic
NotePad
PaintBrush SaveAs box
etc

M2


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Response Number 6
Name: jboy
Date: March 16, 2005 at 08:23:09 Pacific
Subject: Edit fonts
Reply: (edit)

In DOS Edit, you invoke the some special characters (such as the 'ESC' arrow) by first entering CTRL-P

ALT 157 produces ¥ without that though

(DOS7) Edit's actually not bad

Give me ambiguity or give me something else


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Response Number 7
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: March 16, 2005 at 08:48:35 Pacific
Subject: Edit fonts
Reply: (edit)

Hi jboy,

"In DOS Edit, you invoke the some special characters (such as the 'ESC' arrow) by first entering CTRL-P"

Doesn't ctrl-p turn on echoing to PRN?

M2


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Response Number 8
Name: jboy
Date: March 16, 2005 at 09:00:42 Pacific
Subject: Edit fonts
Reply: (edit)

In Edit? Not that I've noticed - I forget where I picked that up, possibly the original (DOS6) helpfile. Used to write a lot of 'escape sequences' in Edit. The old QBasic version was a bit of a clunker, but the Win9x standalone Edit is alright.

Give me ambiguity or give me something else


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Response Number 9
Name: JackG
Date: March 16, 2005 at 09:11:13 Pacific
Subject: Edit fonts
Reply: (edit)

Edit and almost all simple DOS editors will use the ASCII Font set it BIOS by default.

However, if you have Country codes set and the drivers loaded, then for the Extended ASCII codes, you will get the characters displayed from that country code page.

But for the default Extended characters as entered by the ALT - NumPad this extended character table will give you what you want and will see in DOS EDIT.


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Response Number 10
Name: Valerie (by Garibaldi)
Date: March 16, 2005 at 13:57:51 Pacific
Subject: Edit fonts
Reply: (edit)

Thanks guys, lotsa lovely info


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Response Number 11
Name: Nigel Spike
Date: March 16, 2005 at 23:53:15 Pacific
Subject: Edit fonts
Reply: (edit)

Should you have a country code set as Jack G mentions in reply #9, you can switch to default US by means of Ctrl+AltF1, and then back to your own by Ctrl+Alt+F2.

Nigel


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