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Name: Janset
Date: July 19, 2005 at 12:23:21 Pacific
OS: Win98SE
CPU/Ram: Pen3 192MegRam
Comment:

Hi all.

To begin with I know ABSOLUTELY nothing about DOS, hence my question.

When I fire up my IBM T21 laptop and before Win98SE loads I get a black screen with a cursor and very soon after that I get the message:

DOS key installed
Too many parameters

That stays up momentarily and them Windows loads up without any problem.

My questions: What does that mean?

Do I need this?

Can I uninstall it as I do not do any DOS work or mess around with batch files in any way.

Regards

Thinking hurts my head



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Response Number 1
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: July 19, 2005 at 12:26:30 Pacific
Reply:

It is likely that the error is not with DOSKEY, but something after that in autoexec.

Post the contents of your autoexec.bat; it's in C:\

M2


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Response Number 2
Name: jboy
Date: July 19, 2005 at 14:47:30 Pacific
Reply:

It means that DOSKey (a DOS keystroke utility) is not being loaded because there are mistakes in that particular line in autoexec.bat

Msconfig allows you to control or edit the various startups, including autoexec.bat.

If you don't require DOSkey, you can just disable the line or the entire autoexec.bat if desired - otherwise we'll need to see just what messed up parameters are being issued

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Response Number 3
Name: Janset
Date: July 20, 2005 at 22:03:04 Pacific
Reply:

Hi guys

I do not know anything about Batch Files but I do believe that is where DOSkey is used, am I correct?

Do I need DOSkey if I do not work with DOS or batch files??

If I do not need it, then that particular program serves me no purpose, I would rather remove it as it does slow down the boot up.

Can I and/or how do I remove it?

Can the removal of it cause any problems?

Several questions there, I sorry about that.

Regards

Thinking hurts my head


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Response Number 4
Name: jubalsams
Date: July 20, 2005 at 23:18:39 Pacific
Reply:

No problem removing it (actually disable it):

Start Run msconfig , autoexec.bat tab, uncheck any line with DOSKEY in it.

Best


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Response Number 5
Name: Janset
Date: July 21, 2005 at 04:18:27 Pacific
Reply:

Hi All.

I opened my laptop and found that the DOSKEY also has a number of other applications under it. These are:

REM (CD-ROM Drive)
REM (Miscellaneous)
REM (Display)
REM (Sound, MIDI, or Video Capture Card)
REM (Mouse)

There are then a few other ticked boxes still within the 'tab' Autoexec.bat, which I (hopefully think) are not part of the DOSkey function

If I untick the DOSkey function, will there be any undesirable effects to the other items listed 'above' and still under the DOSkey tab and prefaced with the ward "REM" ?

I would hate for somethiing to stop working by unticking the DOSkey function.

Am I not like a dog with as bone?

Regards

Thinking hurts my head


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Response Number 6
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: July 21, 2005 at 04:41:01 Pacific
Reply:

re-read #1

M2


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Response Number 7
Name: Dan Penny
Date: July 21, 2005 at 05:40:55 Pacific
Reply:

As stated by Mechanix2Go:
"Post the contents of your autoexec.bat; it's in C:\"

Right-click on c:\autoexec.bat and choose EDIT. Copy and paste the entire contents of the file here. (You may have to set My Computer or Windows Explorer to "Show All Files" and "not hide file extensions of known types" in order to have it listed.)

With the entire file posted here, people can offer their insight into solving your problem.

To answer your current question; Each line (in C:\Autoexec.bat) that begins with "REM", means that that particular line has been set to be ignored by placing the "REMark" statement at the beginning of the line. Anything with this is ignored, so, no worries.

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Response Number 8
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: July 21, 2005 at 06:40:08 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Dan,

Where you been?

M2


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Response Number 9
Name: jboy
Date: July 21, 2005 at 09:46:30 Pacific
Reply:

"I do not know anything about Batch Files but I do believe that is where DOSkey is used, am I correct?"

Not quite - it is a command line utility. My feeling is, if you don't know what it is, you won't miss it.

As (repeatedly) suggested , just try disabling it from msconfig, or show us the contents of autoexec.bat for advice. Lots of back-and-forth, not much progress here

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Response Number 10
Name: Dan Penny
Date: July 21, 2005 at 10:12:55 Pacific
Reply:

Hi M2G,

I've been around here, somewhat. ;>) I am however, spending time here though;

and here


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Response Number 11
Name: Janset
Date: July 21, 2005 at 21:34:41 Pacific
Reply:

Hi guys.

I am having a lot of trouble trying to copy the file. My cut and paste does not seem to open and when I try for a snap shot using a capture program, it turns up in Paint as a BMP.

But I haven't given up yet. The problem is that I have to get it off my laptop and into my desktop.

I am still at it. <:(

Regards

Thinking hurts my head


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Response Number 12
Name: Janset
Date: July 21, 2005 at 21:49:09 Pacific
Reply:

Hi guys.

I think I have it. I hope this is what you asked for.
************

@ECHO OFF
REM [Header]

DOSKEY

REM [CD-ROM Drive]

REM [Miscellaneous]

REM [Display]

REM [Sound, MIDI, or Video Capture Card]

REM [Mouse]
PATH=C:\PROGRA~1\THINKPAD\UTILIT~1;"c:\Program Files\Symantec\Norton Ghost 2003\"
PATH C:\PROGRA~1\THINKPAD\UTILIT~2;%PATH%
REM The following line creates the hibernation file.
if not exist C:\save2dsk.bin C:\PROGRA~1\THINKPAD\UTILIT~1\phdisk /c /f <C:\PROGRA~1\THINKPAD\UTILIT~1\yes

Regards.

Thinking hurts my head


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Response Number 13
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: July 21, 2005 at 23:19:47 Pacific
Reply:

"C:\PROGRA~1\THINKPAD\UTILIT~1\phdisk /c /f <C:\PROGRA~1\THINKPAD\UTILIT~1\yes"

Looks like that is the only line after DOSKEY which is "doing anything".

Since it's apparently not working, as indicated by the "too many parameters" msg, you may as well disable it by putting

REM[and one space]

before it.

M2


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Response Number 14
Name: Janset
Date: July 21, 2005 at 23:36:21 Pacific
Reply:

Hi there.

Pardon my ignorance,

> put REM[and one space]
> before it.

Before What??

Baby steps please.

I do not think I will be able to do too much more for the next few days as I am off camping for the week end leaving in about an hour.

But please keep it coming.

Regards


Thinking hurts my head


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Response Number 15
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: July 21, 2005 at 23:46:36 Pacific
Reply:

Before this:

C:\PROGRA~1\THINKPAD\UTILIT~1\phdisk /c /f <C:\PROGRA~1\THINKPAD\UTILIT~1\yes

so it looks like this:

REM C:\PROGRA~1\THINKPAD\UTILIT~1\phdisk /c /f <C:\PROGRA~1\THINKPAD\UTILIT~1\yes

M2


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Response Number 16
Name: jboy
Date: July 22, 2005 at 15:24:41 Pacific
Reply:

Msconfig will do that for you - just untick whatever lines you wish to disable.

Sysedit is another way to open those files, as well as notepad - copy & paste is... challenging(??)

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Response Number 17
Name: Janset
Date: July 23, 2005 at 23:14:13 Pacific
Reply:

Hi guys.

I will give it a go the next few days when the laptop is out again.

jboy, cut/copy and paste, I do not have any trouble with, but I have not worked with notepad and .dat files and the like. When I tried to open in notepad as suggested,I did what I usually do but all I got was the 'gear icon'.

When I opened that and tried the copy and paste, the copy worked but when it came to the paste, it was grayed out.

Not to worry, I managed to do a copy and paste some way so that little problem was over come.

You will have to forgive my fumbling as I live in West Australia and over here we tend to be a bit slow(er)to get with the program. :-)

Regards

Thinking hurts my head that's why I live in West Australia


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Response Number 18
Name: Janset
Date: July 24, 2005 at 01:16:27 Pacific
Reply:

Hi guys.

I tried what I thought was the easiest way to go first.

Start>Run>MSCONFIG and then clicked Autoexec.bat.

There I unchecked DOSKEY and clicked 'apply' and rebooted.

This time, on the blackscreen I did not get the word DOSKEY, only "Too many parameters".

From there on, after each re-boot I systematically unticked one by one, from the bottom each tickbox listed but still leaving DOSKEY unchecked and re-boot between each.

Interestingly when either the second or the third (or)both_tickboxs from the bottom were unchecked I no longer got the "too many parameters" warning again.

These are the 2 items I refer to in the Autoexec.bat tab (so you know which ones I am talking about).

PATH=C:\PROGRA~1THINKPAD\UTILIT~1;"c:\Program Files\Symantec\Norton Ghost 2003\"

and/or

PATH C:\PROGRA~1\THINKPAD\UTILIT~2;%PATH%

By the way, what does this mean?

@ECHO OFF
REM (Header)

That is also a ticked box that I have as yet not touched.

Regards

Thinking hurts my head that's why I live in West Australia


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Response Number 19
Name: Dan Penny
Date: July 24, 2005 at 10:06:38 Pacific
Reply:

PATH=C:\PROGRA~1THINKPAD\UTILIT~1;"c:\Program Files\Symantec\Norton Ghost 2003\"

In the above there should be a \ after the PROGRA~1 and before the THINKPAD as below. Typo?

and/or

PATH C:\PROGRA~1\THINKPAD\UTILIT~2;%PATH%

It looks as though there is a double entry/reference to the same directory; THINKPAD\UTILIT~1 above and UTILIT~2 in the second entry. You can make one like so; (NO spaces)

PATH=C:\PROGRA~1\THINKPAD\UTILIT~1;"c:\Program Files\Symantec\Norton Ghost 2003\";%PATH%;

"By the way, what does this mean?"

@ECHO OFF
REM (Header)

Echo off turns off the screen display for the commands initiated by the batch file. Only the results/output of those commands will be "echoed" to the screen.

The REM stands for REMARK. Any batch file line starting with the REM is ignored as a command and treated like a "remark", or textual information within the file.

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Response Number 20
Name: Janset
Date: July 24, 2005 at 20:00:33 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Dan.

No typo as suggested by you.

Those strings listed were copied and pasted one line at a time just to make sure I did not stuff it up.

Just as a point, that string you referred to ending with Ghost 2003, what instruction does that command actual give to the computer, e.g. "do this, then that, then whatever". Do you know what it says?

I ask this because I do have Ghost 2003 installed on the computer, but I have unchecked the item in the start up menu and chose to make it a manual 'startup' as and when I wanted to use it.

Your input is really appreciated as are the others.

Regards

Thinking hurts my head that's why I live in West Australia


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Response Number 21
Name: Dan Penny
Date: July 24, 2005 at 20:33:36 Pacific
Reply:

"Just as a point, that string you referred to ending with Ghost 2003, what instruction does that command actual give to the computer, e.g. "do this, then that, then whatever"."

The path statement contains the directories and sub directories which will be searched by the system, when a file is called for, which hasn't been provided the complete path to the file. If the entry (correctly listed of course) exists in the path statement, the system will find the file.

If a file is called for, and the complete path is not given, and and the directory is not listed in the path statement, you will get a "Bad command or filename" error.

Thus the "c:\Program Files\Symantec\Norton Ghost 2003\" in the staement, tells the system that this is a directory to check in every call of an incomplete path. (In your instance, it's in quotes as the path (as written to the path statement when the software installed) is in LFN (Long File Name) format.)

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Response Number 22
Name: Janset
Date: July 24, 2005 at 22:38:59 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you Dan.

Does that mean that now that I have unchecked that string containing the Ghost reference, the next time I want to do a ghost backup and try to load the program manually, I will get an error message?

Regards

Thinking hurts my head that's why I live in West Australia


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Response Number 23
Name: Dan Penny
Date: July 25, 2005 at 09:41:21 Pacific
Reply:

"Does that mean that now that I have unchecked that string containing the Ghost reference, the next time I want to do a ghost backup and try to load the program manually, I will get an error message?"

If run from Windows, most likely. That's why the program (Ghost) updated your path statement when it (the program) was installed. If you run in RAW DOS, the statement will still be there. (It's only "unchecked" in the Windows realm.

Why have you unchecked your path statement? OR, What do you currently have as a path statement?

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Response Number 24
Name: Janset
Date: July 25, 2005 at 20:30:24 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Dan.

Every thing that I have in my 'Path statement?" is listed above.

I only unticked items so as to get rid of those 2 'advice' lines from the black screen, i.e.

DOSkey loaded
Too many parameters.

Dan, I think I am causing a storm in a tea cup here. I think I will just re-tick the boxes and live with those two 'description' lines.

Try as I may, I think the only real way that I can understand this particular issue is to undertake some kind of cause covering this subject.

Thanks for your patience. Maybe my next question I will understand more readily.

Best regards


Thinking hurts my head that's why I live in West Australia


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Response Number 25
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: July 25, 2005 at 22:29:36 Pacific
Reply:

Hi JANSET & everyone,

The original issue was the error 'too many parameters'.

We are now confident that the error comes from one of the PATH lines.

The fact that the PATH line 'errors out' means that the setting of the path to ghost is not working, so it may as well be disabled with REM.

I think the reason that the PATH line errors out is that until the 32 bit subsystem and LFN support are loaded, double quoting a path with spaces is meaningless.


M2


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