Is there a tutorial or a walk-thru on how I setup access to my broadband via my router (I have RoadRunner). Yes I know that I can do it using Windows 9x. I have been always curous on how to do it with just DOS applications. My main goal is to have a bootable cdrom that access the internet using Arachne (and/or Lynx). I've tried Bart's Mod-boot, but it just freezes after detecting my network card. Any help would be apprecitated.

DOS is the best

The most important part is finding the correct Packet driver for your Network card

http://www.mwpms.uklinux.net/page7.htm

http://www.mwpms.uklinux.net/page5.htm

http://www.mwpms.uklinux.net/autoex...

Also see POST54 and on at:

http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc

Hi,

All of the bootable/stand-alone (live) CDs which i
could readily connect with were always DHCP-based;
this is a standard Linux feature but that's hardly
available under DOS at all, as i recall, and works
only if a MoDem/Router is configured to suport it.

I'm a former WatTCP user who learned to define his
DOS environment variables and .CFG file to allow a
number of applications to connect without the need
to reconfigure... It's more desirable to make the
environment capable of providing access to various
applications than just load a packet-driver hoping
that the client (Arachne, whatever) might be DHCP-
enabled, IMHO - in short, better prepare to assign
the IP address manually! Of course, if you got no
idea what this is all about then i'm afraid it may
be a long ride (unless you know where to look)!...

But a WatTCP setup isn't as difficult to manage as
some people seem to think, this has been discussed
before so i simply suggest that you search around;
try this if you've acquired basic DOS user skills:

http://www.computing.net/dos/wwwboard/forum/16037.html (Response Number 9)

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Salutations,

Michel Samson
a/s Bicéphale

Both Arachne and DosLynx (FM's version) support DHCP period.

I do not know where the idea came from that DHCP Client is a no no in DOS Networking. The OP has a router and he only needs a Packet Driver at Vector 0x60.

As a Windows User he is not used to writing out line command config. files and in the 21st century is totally unneccessary.

I have been using routers as DHCP servers for DOS Networking for many years.......

Hi Dosser,

Do> I do not know where the idea came from that
Do> DHCP Client is a no no in DOS Networking.

I wonder how you came to write such a statement
myself! As far as i know, DHCP makes life much
simpler but many of my favourite programs often
lack internal DHCP support, i'm afraid. Let me
know which name i must look for in order to get
a specific DOS DHCP client, please! Of course,
there are a few cases where WatTCP.CFG might be
required anyway and hence i'd need to do what i
always done but a DHCP client would allow me to
automate this task... So, i'm ready to ask you
about the same DOS feature by starting a thread
of my own if i must - i've been hoping for such
a tool since i learned about DHCP, years ago!!!

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Salutations,

Michel Samson
a/s Bicéphale

Both Arachne and DosLynx (FM's version) support DHCP period. The client is built into these apps which the OP was interested in, providing he has a Packet Driver at Vector 0x60.

I am not talking generally I was specifically targeting the question.

Actually I believe MS Network Client 3 also has a DHCP Client built in when using the TCP/IP add-on.

Hi again Dosser,

I appreciate your reply. In other words, internal
(built-in) DHCP support is a mandatory requirement
unless the user would be willing to install a full
WatTCP setup. I must confess i have a tendency to
like inclusive/pre-emptive solutions but this user
didn't ask for one which would allow him to define
RLFossil/MS-Kermit as Arachne's TelNet client, for
example... I see your point, thank you for making
this effort; it would help to put a list of DHCP-
enabled applications with their corresponding URLs
together so that anyone looking for a quick fix is
refered to it swiftly, IMHO! As for the MicroSoft
scenario, i believe DHCP comes at the cost of high
memory consumption, so high Arachne wouldn't begin
to load even if it were NDIS-compatible, actually.

In any case, please let me know if someone happens
to create some stand-alone DOS WatTCP DHCP client,
i'm hardly satisfied when i try to gather the data
i need from multiple versions of TCPInfo (none has
proven to be entirely acurate and i tried at least
four so far). I welcome any input in this matter!

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Salutations,

Michel Samson
a/s Bicéphale

Yes M$ Client 3 is useless.

I did have the following setup all controlled from a router/DHCP:

3 PC's each could use either Arachne or DosLynx Browser and when not browsing used NeOS for file sharing:

http://www.simtel.net/product.php?u...

Each PC had 600K+ free memory after install of Packet Driver, no sound though.

Arachne needs 550K base memory, but NeOS and DosLynx are a lot lower requirements so by sharing packet drivers / tcpip just exiting the app frees memory.

Actually both the browsers use WATTCP based networking, Arachne has a built in setup GUI, whereas DOSLynx has a .CFG file, which needs very little configuring:

http://users.ohiohills.com/fmacall/

dosser, bicephale, permtemp2003 -

I used MS-DOS 6.22 and Arachne 1.48 on a 486 DX2-66 for about 6 years, and was happy.
I was persuaded to "upgrade" to a Windows XP
system about 4 years ago. It's nice, but I can't run Arachne on it (??). I want to go back to a pure DOS machine, but a) I need DOS to connect to my cable Roadrunner, and b) I seem to have forgotten too much of the DOS/Arachne jargon: I could not understand your posts!

Booting into MS-DOS 6.22, can Arachne/DOS connect to my system? I have cable Roadrunner, cable to a network card from a cable modem/gateway that's connected to a wireless router using Netgear MA111 USB wireless adapters at 3 of my 4 PC's. What do I need, and what do I do?

Please help. Thanks.
"Al Zheimers"
als2315

Bring back DOS!

Hi als2315,

Perhaps others will be up to it but i'm not really
enthusiastic about finding you a DOS packet-driver
for this Netgear MA111 WiFi USB dongle or yours...

It's possible you'd be better to simply give up on
walking the trail backwards to have plain DOS INet
access. Have you considered using VMWare, Virtual
PC, Bochs or any other similar simulator i may not
have heard of? Lets take VMWare, for example: in
full-screen mode one might very well forget that's
not the PC's own CMOS setup utility he will access
at boot time (before DOS has even started)... DOS
won't see much difference neither trying to manage
with the virtual serial/parallel ports, sound-card
or peripherals including an NIC or else, actually.

As long as you don't ask questions specific to the
VMWare application or Windows itself i don't see a
good reason not to welcome your requests. There's
only one packet-driver for all of the VMWare users
since it's for a virtual NIC that's independent of
of hardware variations, which simplifies our lives
a great deal because everyone is able to try it...

I'm no DOS purist engaged into religious enrolment
or plain Windows bashing, i guess the few guys who
keep reading this forum can accept DOS discussions
provided that your topics are related to plain DOS
(read independent from Windows at all costs). The
alternative you mention is to manage with standard
DOS as it used to be in the good old days, without
the benefit of having modern resources handy... I
am comfortable with that as well but you must know
that you'll have to post elswhere if you break the
Windows NT boot menu playing with partitions, etc.

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Salutations,

Michel Samson
a/s Bicéphale