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How would I create a DOS (7.1) boot disk
from my W95 machine; that is, a boot straight
into DOS not just into Win95 without the GUI.

I assume you want to make a bootable floppy disk (otherwise hit the f8 key after POST to go to a menu that will let you boot to a DOS prompt).
To make the bootable floppy just open DOS in a window, put a floppy disk in your a: drive and type:
format a:/s/uThat floppy will boot to DOS but you can't do much until you copy some of the files from
c:\windows\command
to the floppy - you may need/want to make 2 bootasble disks so you can have access to all of the DOS filesHope this is what you want,
Henry

If the floppy is already formatted (most are), a simple
sys a:
from a dos command line will transfer the core files to the diskette - you'll need a few other files, and autoexec.bat and config.sys will need to be created/edited.
If you feel daring, edit your c:\msdos.sys file with notepad (it's just a text file) and adjust the 'bootGUI' line:
[Options]
BootGUI=0To boot to the command line - type win for windows.
You may need to remove the system or read-only attributes to edit, never hurts to make a backup, either.
There's a whole web page devoted to this... can't quite remember the URL, if I do, I'll post it.

If you're uncomfortable editing msdos.sys, find and install TweakUI into win 95, (you'll get an entry in control panel)it'll make the changes for you.
Open it and go to the BOOT tab. There you'll find a number of settings, one of which is 'Always show boot menu ', check that box, and select a time to continue booting after if you choose to ' Start GUI automaticly ' above.
What you now have is the choices of the full windows boot menu, every time you boot, and no scrambling to get the F8 key just in time, from barebones command prompt only, command prompt with autoexe.bat and config.sys loaded, safe mode, windows full gui , etc.
SO , you are booted to DOS, . To play with DOS 7.x , change directory ( cd ) to C:\windows\command\ and off you go, or ,if you have 6.22 for instance in C:\DOS\ cd to there and use accordingly.
NONE OF WINDOWS HAS BEEN LOADEDif you want ot get to windows use the ' win ' command at C:\, C:\windows\ ,or C:\windows\command\
BTW TweakUI gives you LOTS of other options to customize and even repair some windows functions.

Why not do it the easy way!
Open Windows 9X, goto Control Panel, then Add/Remove Programs, click on Startup Disk then create disk.This will create a Windows Startup Disk ofor the correct version of DOS to Windows 9x you have.
Edit the contents of disk to match your needs. No need to edit config.sys as this has already been done for you.

There are certain programs that will only
work from DOS. It is my understanding that
the 7.x versions of DOS are intergral to
the 32 bit Win 9.x/Me systems and as such
will not provide the proper DOS environment
for running certain programs. Whether the
difference is 16bit DOS vs 32bit DOS, or
something else, I am not certain.It is also my understanding the last stand-
alone DOS version is 6.22 and I am not
certain whether or not this is a 16 or 32
bit system, although the programs previously
mentioned which will not run under the 7.x
versions of DOS will run under 6.22.It was my intention here to try to determine
exactly what the differences are and I may
have been a little optimistic in phrasing
such a simple question. However, I would
appreciate it if anyone could at least point
me to a good detailed explanation of these
differences

Well, Win9x is quite a bit different than WinME in its treatment of DOS (as I understand it).
"DOS 7" is fairly backwards compatible with the older DOS programs, and can be installed stand alone, I believe, using just the system files and the DOS external commands from c:\windows\command.
Some programs may not be compatible with DOS7, more often the problem can be with the FAT32 (large disk) structure, for modern HDDs or partitions larger than 2 Gb.
I am not qualified to compare the the two Operating Systems (DOS6xx DOS7) in the detail you seem to require - it would be quite an undertaking, to say the least.
Perhaps if you offered a clearer explanation of what you specifically would like to do, a more precise response would be forthcoming.
If you just want to make a basic Win9x boot floppy, 'happy helpers' suggestion of creating one within Windows is the simplest route.
If you want to experiment with different Windows settings, you should give TweakUI a whirl, as Tink suggests - it is a great little tool.

To be a little bit more specific, I have recently deployed the Win 2000 Professional OS and, as with all new systems I've installed, my first priority is to create boot and/or rescue disks and to learn
just what tools are available to recover from boot and other failures.Win 2K employing NTFS seems to be a different kind of animal when it comes to recovery. The very nature of the security precautions built into the NTFS system seems to be a frustrating factor. Of paramount
importance in any disk boot failure is corruption of the MBR and/or boot sectors due either to virus or hard disk failure. A tool, Disksave, contained in the NT resource kit allow you to take a snapshot(image) of
the MBR/boot sector for later recovery. This tool only operates under certain versions of DOS. It will work under 6.22 but will not work with a boot disk prepared with Win9.x (forgive me WinMe employs DOS 8).Winternals markets several tools, one of which is NTFSDOS, which also requires MSDOS to work. As I understand only the 6.22 and possibly earlier versions will suffice for this tool.
Other recovery suggestions include partitioning the HDD and loading a copy of the OS on each partition the second one being available for recovery in the event of failure of the first. However with only
one MBR I am not sure just how this would work.
Alternatively, a second machine could be empoyed to run Win2k solely as a recovery tool. A failed HDD on one machine could be simply be moved to the other and attached to the secondary IDE channel and its disk read with the uncorrupted Win2K OS.These are relatively expensive alternatives and I am trying to completely understand how recovery would work so I can make a sensible decision on how to proceed in the event of a failure.

Well that is certainly a great deal more specific than your original post. It would seem that your knowledge of these systems is more comprehensive than that of the majority of contributors here (certainly more than mine *g*) - you do realize that this is the DOS forum.... lots of "DOS" questions get asked here - however, often it will turn out that the petitioner is actually running some Win version... and that the question is usually better addressed at the appropriate forum page... for obvious reasons.
There are many programs that can save and restore the master boot record, and on most versions of DOS and Win9x, it's no big deal to restore the core system files if they become corrupt. Later versions of Win, I believe, are based on a different kernel than Win9x, and as to NT, that, no doubt, is a whole other kettle of fish.
A command line does not an Operating System (make)Good luck with it all

You are quite right, w2k (and winNT) is a different beast. The best you can do in the way of a boot disk is to make one under w2k (or winNT). It WILL NOT boot to a DOS prompt, rather it is a sort of substitute for the boot block on the system drive. It will boot you to w2k on the system disk if the boot block/boot files are damaged on your HDD. There is no DOS command structure available under w2k (or winNT) as it is in win9x. Any DOS prompt you get is delivered via w2k.
If you are looking for a system that you can access with DOS98 or DOSMe then you will need to install w2k using a FAT16 or FAT32 file system. That would be a good idea unless you have other w2k systems you can use to repair HDD damage - w2k is pretty intolerant of disk problems; not all HDDs can support w2k.
Henry

Im outer here. First you have a 'simple' problem of creating a WinDOS bootdisk. Now we are talking WinNT and more! Sorry Ray but I for one feel your first post is pointless to what it has now become.
Goodbye.

From windows 2000, go to the start menu, accessories, system tools, then choose backup. From there you have the option to create a emergency repair disk. If your system crashes you can run setup and use this diskette to restore your system.
-Michael

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