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Creating DOS 7.10

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Name: Crumb
Date: May 5, 2005 at 20:35:11 Pacific
OS: xp
CPU/Ram: amd 512mb
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Hello all. I read here about the standalone DOS 7.10 which in itself sounds very interesting to me.
However I found that all url's where DOS 7.10 was downloadable dont exist anymore :( . I dont know but this migth have something to do with the fact that a downloadable DOS 7.10 was not legal or something.

Here is my real question: I posess both DOS 6.22 and all versions of windows 9x so I guess I have all the files I need, now would it be possible for me to create a standalone DOS 7.10 installation disk(s) from the windows/DOS cdroms/diskettes I now have and how?



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Response Number 1
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: May 5, 2005 at 23:30:40 Pacific
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Forget 6.22

All the files you need are on 98se CD.

M2


If at first you don't succeed, you're about average.


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Response Number 2
Name: Dan Penny
Date: May 6, 2005 at 10:13:21 Pacific
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"...would it be possible for me to create a standalone DOS 7.10 installation disk(s) from the windows/DOS cdroms..."

Sure. The following assumes you have some level of dos expertise.

You'd need to gather all the files which are in the c:\windows\command directory. Either capture them to a cd or floppies from an existing 98SE installation, or extract them from the cd cab files. (Long process.)

Use a 98SE bootdisk to sys the target machine. Then create the following dirs on it;

command
mouse

Then msdos.sys must be modified. Here's mine;

[Paths]
HostWinBootDrv=C

[Options]
drvspace=0
dblspace=0
BootMulti=0
BootGUI=0
BootWarn=0
Network=0
LOGO=0
DoubleBuffer=0
WinVer=4.10.2222
Bootkeys=1
;
;The following lines are required for compatibility with other programs.
;Do not remove them (MSDOS.SYS needs to be >1024 bytes).
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxa
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxb
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxc
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxd
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxe
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxf
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxg
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxh
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxi
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxj
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxk
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxl
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxm
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxn
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxo
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxp
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxq
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxr
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxs

Then create your config.sys and autoexec.bat files.
CONFIG.SYS (Mine - alter as you see fit.)
===========
::(NOTE - the ",noauto" at the end of the dos=high,umb,noauto line is important so ifshlp.sys doesn't run.)

[COMMON]
SWITCHES=/F
break=on
lastdrive=z

SHELL=c:\COMMAND\COMMAND.COM c:\command\ /E:512 /p
DEVICE=c:\command\HIMEM.SYS /q
device=c:\command\emm386.exe d=64 noems frame=none I=B000-B7FF
dos=high,umb,noauto
devicehigh=c:\command\ansi.sys
FILEShigh=40
stackshigh=9,256
DEVICEHIGH=c:\command\VIDE-CDD.SYS /D:IDE-CD

AUTOEXEC.BAT (Mine - alter as you see fit.)
=============

@ECHO OFF
PATH \;C:\command;D:;D:\BATCH;D:\GHOST;D:\TOOLBOX;E:;E:\PKWARE;
::
IF EXIST C:\bootlog.* c:\command\DELTREE/Y C:\bootlog.* >nul
IF EXIST C:\SCANDISK.LOG c:\command\DELTREE/Y C:\SCANDISK.LOG
IF EXIST C:\TREEINFO.NCD DEL C:\TREEINFO.NCD
::
IF EXIST D:\SCANDISK.LOG c:\command\DELTREE/Y D:\SCANDISK.LOG
IF EXIST D:\TREEINFO.NCD DEL D:\TREEINFO.NCD
::
IF EXIST E:\SCANDISK.LOG c:\command\DELTREE/Y E:\SCANDISK.LOG
IF EXIST E:\TREEINFO.NCD DEL E:\TREEINFO.NCD
::
::
SET TEMP=c:\TEMP
SET TMP=c:\TEMP
ECHO.EXIT|%COMSPEC%/K PROMPT $_ $_ $D$_ $_ $T$_|FIND " "
ECHO.
SET COMSPEC=c:\command\COMMAND.COM
SET DIRCMD=/a-d/o/p/v
SET COPYCMD=/V/-Y
LH c:\command\MSCDEX.exe /D:IDE-CD /M:10 <-- This line should be before the mscdex line
c:\command\SMARTDRV 4096 16
LH c:\command\DOSKEY/INSERT/REINSTALL
LH c:\MOUSE\GMOUSE
EXIT

Dump all the c:\windows\command files you captured previously into the new c:\command directory. Dump your dos mouse drivers into c:\mouse. When you're finished it should be a bootable, fully functional DOS 7.10 machine. If you have a sound card with dos drivers, get the appropriate files onto the new machine and alter the config.sys and autoexec.bat files to accommodate.

If you have further questions post back.


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Response Number 3
Name: hiho
Date: May 6, 2005 at 23:45:40 Pacific
Reply:

http://www.ctyme.com/msdos7.htm


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Response Number 4
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: May 6, 2005 at 23:57:49 Pacific
Reply:

Hi hiho,

good linx

M2


If at first you don't succeed, you're about average.


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Response Number 5
Name: Crumb
Date: May 9, 2005 at 17:09:47 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the replies and the great links!

"Sure. The following assumes you have some level of dos expertise." which I do

So if I make a bootable disk with somekind of install.bat file which copies all needed dos7.1 files from floppy to the harddrive and change some files to suit my particular needs I should have a fully functional dos 7.1?

My idea is to sorta make a custom set of dos 7.1 install floppies on 2.88MB floppies (I have both the disks and the drives :) ) and if this works it would be great!

Is it possible to make somekind of simple setup.exe installation file that can install dos 7.1 from 2.88MB floppies?


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Response Number 6
Name: Dan Penny
Date: May 9, 2005 at 19:28:37 Pacific
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Sure. Self extracting zip files. PKZIP.exe will do this, as well as winzip. I have done something similar in the past, just on a smaller scope, but it works fine. Make your first (boot) floppy a standard 1.44 and use the parm command to set up the floppy drive. Dos 7.10a doesn't have this anymore, but you might be able to use setver to get around this, or, boot to dos 6.2x, set up a ram drive with all the applicable files, format and sys the c: drive from the ram drive, copy the files over, etc. You can do it with a little imagination.

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Response Number 7
Name: Dan Penny
Date: May 9, 2005 at 19:33:53 Pacific
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"...boot to dos 6.2x, set up a ram drive with all the applicable files, format and sys the c: drive..."

Sorry, the format for 7.1 may not work while booted under 6.2x, but still, with a bit of thought.....

The preceeding all started with the drive parm for 2.88 floppies.


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