YOU SAID: ============================================= """2 Female Connecters one above the other,that I think old style printers use to connect to, One connector on the bottom one says (term on) with a black switch that slides left and right, the switch is to the right, I have the white cable connected to the top female connector on the cd rom the other end to the printer port""" ============================================= These two connectors are your clue. NO OTHER INTERFACE except SCSI uses a "terminator." THIS IS a SCSI drive. DO NOT try to hook it to the parallel/printer port, or to the serial port with an adaptor. IT WILL NOT WORK, and you may just blow something up, like maybe the printer port. The only way you will get this to work is to find an appropriate SCSI interface card, which were also used on many older flatbed scanners. However, good luck finding a PCMCIA card for that use. Now, some of the other ways you can go, here, is to use an old version of laplink (ll3.exe) or laplink 4, xtlink.com, or the pain in the ... interlink/interserver supplied with late versions of MS DOS. Alternaltely, you could get a cable adaptor that would allow you to put your laptop hard drive temporarily into your desktop as a slave. These are cheap and not diffficult to find. Last, you could just find and buy a DOS capapable portable CDROM drive, such as the old Panasonic I have. These do show up on eBay once in awhile.

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"These are basic DOS drivers that will work with most CDROM drives" Yeah - internal, IDE CD drives. On an old P75, it's doubtful any kind of CD would show up in the BIOS, but certainly no external device would. Any CD drive will spin when the system is powered on - all that indicates is that it's getting power. The various error messages indicate that the driver is incorrect. "I don't suppose I can use my adapter to connect to the serial mouse port????" Don't even consider that - as suggested by name, plugging something into a connector not designed for it can have dire consequences. Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?

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Ok, Thanks I'll get the cable adapter, to connect the hard drive to another computer and install windows 95 or 98 that way. I'll also check E-bay for a panasonic external cd rom, to use in Dos. Thanks for all your help.

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Sure - if you slave the drive to a desktop model, just copy the Win95 or Win98 folder to the HDD and then run the install from the laptop. Same idea goes for connecting via a crossover cable to LPT or COM ports, but it'll take a while to transfer the files over. Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?

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name, You're exavtly right. It is SCSI and it will never work on that laptop. I wonder if the parallel port has already been damaged. I used LapLink5 a few days ago to copy files on a clunker with a broke CDROM. Took almost three hours to xfer 300MB. M2 Mechanix2@Golden-Triangle.com

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My best time was Win98 in about an hour over the LPTs using Total Commander & LPTDOS Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?

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jboy, I realize now that the laptop probably was set to standard LPT, not ECP. It's a Compaq [not a great start] P133, about 9 years old. How do you get into setup on one of these turkeys? f1 f2 del no joy M2 Mechanix2@Golden-Triangle.com

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Typically, you'd hit F10 when you see the Compaq logo - you have to catch it 'just right' though. On older ones, there's a good chance it's "one of those" - - that is, the CMOS setup actually resides on a hidden partition on the original HDD. If that's been removed or the HDD swapped, you'd need to visit HP/Compaq and download the 'F10 setup' utility for that model. Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?

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jboy, Yeh, forgot about the old mystery partition trick. It's coming back now why I dislike Compaq so much. These are turkeys with a captial TUR. Seems a tragic end for a name which used to be associated with hotshot desktops and servers. Why HP wanted it is anybody's guess. They used to make some very serious test equipment. See you back at the missing pif saga. M2 Mechanix2@Golden-Triangle.com

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I used another laptop to install win98se on this old toshiba laptop, by switching hard drives. boy is that a job and a half. I have one problem left to deal with, Windows Networking X Unable to load the dynamic link library: msnp32.dll The System cannot find the file specified Some or all of the following feature is not available Microsoft Network This file msnp32.dll is currently in C:\Windows\System 80KB Application Extension I copied win 98 cab files to the hard drive windows\options I'm just trying to hookup to the internet now. Any suggestion.

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Reposted in Win9x From M$: "If the behavior continues after extracting the file, remove and reinstall the Client for Microsoft Networks using the Network tool in Control Panel." Also of possible interest: Windows 98 Networking Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?

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Mechanix - sure, I've never actually encountered one setup like that, but I was recently involved in a long, confusing post concerning one. Compaqs have their quirks - some of the 486's weren't bad, as I recall. I do hope there's a resolution to that post of Shorty's (but I have my doubts) Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?

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============================================= """I used another laptop to install win98se on this old toshiba laptop, by switching hard drives. boy is that a job and a half.""" ============================================ Good idea, but that's not how you want to go about this. Do not "install" the operating system. Since you obviously have figured how to swap drives, and acces the CDROM in the second laptop, here's what you do. Either make a floppy boot that will boot the target computer, or else fdisk/format the target hdd, and "sys C" or "format C/sys" to make the hdd bootable. make a directory on the (otherwise empty) target drive called "Win98" From "DOS" copy the folder (directory) on your '98 CD called "Win98" to the same directory on your target hdd. Now swap drives back, boot up the target machine, either from a floppy or directly to the hdd, and run "setup" from the "Win98" directory. NOW you will install '98. The only issue now, doing this, is special drivers you may need for sound, display, etc. START by going to the Toshiba support site and see if they are there.

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