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Name: cheap_repair
Date: December 23, 2004 at 20:20:51 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
OS: MS DOS
CPU/Ram: 75 32mb
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I'm trying to connect a external cd rom by scsi cable to a printer port on my old toshiba satellite 110cs to install win 95 or 98, The only info on the external cd rom is that it's made by LA Cie Limited 24x panasonic with FFC-ID# I don't know if I 'm using the right drivers, I could sure use help getting this cd rom to work. Device name = MSCD0001 Supporting the following units:(ERROR) Interface board or cdrom drive not ready, and I don't know if I have config.sys and autoexec.bat set up right.
Please help.



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Response Number 1
Name: jboy
Date: December 23, 2004 at 20:59:35 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

Do you have an actual model # ?

Might try the FCC ID if that's all you've got.

'MSCD0001' in no way identifies the drive - that's just the driver 'signature' parameter and can be nearly anything.

IDE drivers won't work for a SCSI, let alone an external drive - I'd think you'd need the specific one.


Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?


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Response Number 2
Name: name
Date: December 23, 2004 at 22:55:06 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

If this really is a scsi drive, you certainly cannot connect it through the parallel port.

How did you decide it's a scsi, and are you SURE you posted all the label info off the thing?

I have a Panasonic 4x scsi, connects to a special cable to a PCMCIA card. It's a KXL-D740, and will run with dos drivers.


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Response Number 3
Name: cheap_repair
Date: December 24, 2004 at 06:39:14 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

I don't have a actual model number, there's a sticker on this white Case that says,
La Cie Limited
With a bar code
24x Panasonic 18340703

Another sticker says,
Automatic line switching
Connect only to grounded outlet
90 - 240 v - 50 60 HZ - 0 8A
FCC-ID- GZJ-OEM-CD
La Cie Limited,


The External cd rom case measures,
1 1/2 inches high
6 inches width
11 1/2 long

The front looks like a cd rom that's in a PC, I push a button (only one button)and the cd tray slides out,It has a volume control for head phones.

There's a ID select 0-7 currenlty set to (1) (I think that's what's it's called)

And a red and white female connector, maybe audio or something else.

2 Female Connecters one above the other,that I think old style printers use to connect to,
One connector on the bottom one says (term on) with a black switch that slides left and right, the switch is to the right, I have the white cable connected to the top female connector on the cd rom the other end to the printer port on the back of the laptop,The white cable when connected to the cd rom top port has two silver clips that lock it in place for a tight connection, the other end has two plastic screws that I tighen to attach the cable to the printer port on the laptop.

I also googled FCC-ID and I could find the number on the FCC ID page.

I'll have to do some reaserch on the driver, I have, It's a panasonic Dos Cdrom Driver, That's all I know right now..


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Response Number 4
Name: cheap_repair
Date: December 24, 2004 at 07:03:09 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

Found this at driverguide.com
This is the driver I'm using.

Basic Panasonic (Matsus---a Mats---a)
CD-ROM / CDRW / DVD PanasonicDOSCDROMDrivers.zip
submitted by Bill Hooven
" These are basic DOS drivers that will work with most CDROM drives (at least I (more)"
file size: 50.3kB
driver version: unknown
driver date: unknown
fccid: unknown DOS Oct 18, 2002 100%
installation: 60%
stability: 80%
compatibility: 100%

4 comments download
1630 downloads

There's also SCSI drivers If I have a SCSI connector.


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Response Number 5
Name: cheap_repair
Date: December 24, 2004 at 08:00:33 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

Also,
When I restart the laptop the Cd Rom light flickers like it's trying to read the CD in in the cd rom, I can hear the cd spinning. And the Bios for the laptop on allow for boot priority = FDD HDD

Config.sys Reads,

LASTDRIVE=Z
DEVICEHIGH=C:\CR_ATAPI.SYS /D:MSCD0001
DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DOS=HIGH
FILES=30

Autoexec.bat Reads,

LOADHIGH=C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /d:MSCD0001
@ECHO OFF
Prompt $p$g
PATH C:\DOS
SET TEMP=C:\DOS

CR_ATAPI.SYS is the driver I'm using

When I reboot the laptop I Get This,
CD ROM Device Driver Version 5.17v For ATAPI
Device Name = MSCD0001
Supporting the following units :
Interface board or Cd Rom Drive is not ready
Insure thaat the power is on and drive cables correctly attached
(A) abort (R) retry

I select retry, with no luck
CD rom Driver was not installed

C:\>LOADHIGH=C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /d:MSCD0001
Device Driver not found: 'MSCD0001' .
No Valid CDROM device drivers selected


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Response Number 6
Name: cheap_repair
Date: December 24, 2004 at 08:14:06 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

What I meant to say above was,

In the bios I only have 2 selections
FDD HDD there's no choice for cd rom.
And when I Put in a D: prompt it says,
invalid drive specification, same with e:

I don't suppose I can use my adapter to connect to the serial mouse port????


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Response Number 7
Name: name
Date: December 24, 2004 at 09:06:56 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

YOU SAID:


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"""2 Female Connecters one above the other,that I think old style printers use to connect to,
One connector on the bottom one says (term on) with a black switch that slides left and right, the switch is to the right, I have the white cable connected to the top female connector on the cd rom the other end to the printer port"""
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These two connectors are your clue. NO OTHER INTERFACE except SCSI uses a "terminator."

THIS IS a SCSI drive.

DO NOT try to hook it to the parallel/printer port, or to the serial port with an adaptor. IT WILL NOT WORK, and you may just blow something up, like maybe the printer port.

The only way you will get this to work is to find an appropriate SCSI interface card, which were also used on many older flatbed scanners.

However, good luck finding a PCMCIA card for that use.

Now, some of the other ways you can go, here, is to use an old version of laplink (ll3.exe) or laplink 4, xtlink.com, or the pain in the ... interlink/interserver supplied with late versions of MS DOS.

Alternaltely, you could get a cable adaptor that would allow you to put your laptop hard drive temporarily into your desktop as a slave. These are cheap and not diffficult to find.

Last, you could just find and buy a DOS capapable portable CDROM drive, such as the old Panasonic I have. These do show up on eBay once in awhile.


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Response Number 8
Name: jboy
Date: December 24, 2004 at 10:16:34 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

"These are basic DOS drivers that will work with most CDROM drives"

Yeah - internal, IDE CD drives.

On an old P75, it's doubtful any kind of CD would show up in the BIOS, but certainly no external device would.

Any CD drive will spin when the system is powered on - all that indicates is that it's getting power.

The various error messages indicate that the driver is incorrect.


"I don't suppose I can use my adapter to connect to the serial mouse port????"

Don't even consider that - as suggested by name, plugging something into a connector not designed for it can have dire consequences.


Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?


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Response Number 9
Name: cheap_repair
Date: December 24, 2004 at 13:18:19 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

Ok, Thanks I'll get the cable adapter, to connect the hard drive to another computer and install windows 95 or 98 that way.

I'll also check E-bay for a panasonic external cd rom, to use in Dos.

Thanks for all your help.


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Response Number 10
Name: jboy
Date: December 24, 2004 at 14:12:14 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

Sure - if you slave the drive to a desktop model, just copy the Win95 or Win98 folder to the HDD and then run the install from the laptop. Same idea goes for connecting via a crossover cable to LPT or COM ports, but it'll take a while to transfer the files over.


Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?


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Response Number 11
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: December 24, 2004 at 22:54:44 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

name,

You're exavtly right. It is SCSI and it will never work on that laptop. I wonder if the parallel port has already been damaged.

I used LapLink5 a few days ago to copy files on a clunker with a broke CDROM. Took almost three hours to xfer 300MB.

M2

Mechanix2@Golden-Triangle.com


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Response Number 12
Name: jboy
Date: December 24, 2004 at 23:01:04 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

My best time was Win98 in about an hour over the LPTs using Total Commander & LPTDOS


Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?


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Response Number 13
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: December 25, 2004 at 00:08:19 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

jboy,

I realize now that the laptop probably was set to standard LPT, not ECP.

It's a Compaq [not a great start] P133, about 9 years old.

How do you get into setup on one of these turkeys? f1 f2 del no joy

M2

Mechanix2@Golden-Triangle.com


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Response Number 14
Name: jboy
Date: December 25, 2004 at 09:28:03 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

Typically, you'd hit F10 when you see the Compaq logo - you have to catch it 'just right' though.

On older ones, there's a good chance it's "one of those" - - that is, the CMOS setup actually resides on a hidden partition on the original HDD. If that's been removed or the HDD swapped, you'd need to visit HP/Compaq and download the 'F10 setup' utility for that model.


Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?


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Response Number 15
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: December 25, 2004 at 09:43:58 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

jboy,

Yeh, forgot about the old mystery partition trick. It's coming back now why I dislike Compaq so much. These are turkeys with a captial TUR.

Seems a tragic end for a name which used to be associated with hotshot desktops and servers.

Why HP wanted it is anybody's guess. They used to make some very serious test equipment.

See you back at the missing pif saga.

M2

Mechanix2@Golden-Triangle.com


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Response Number 16
Name: cheap_repair
Date: December 25, 2004 at 19:49:14 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

I used another laptop to install win98se on this old toshiba laptop, by switching hard drives. boy is that a job and a half.

I have one problem left to deal with,

Windows Networking X

Unable to load the dynamic link library: msnp32.dll

The System cannot find the file specified

Some or all of the following feature is not available Microsoft Network

This file msnp32.dll is currently in C:\Windows\System 80KB Application Extension

I copied win 98 cab files to the hard drive windows\options

I'm just trying to hookup to the internet now.

Any suggestion.


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Response Number 17
Name: jboy
Date: December 26, 2004 at 09:42:24 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

Reposted in Win9x

From M$:

"If the behavior continues after extracting the file, remove and reinstall the Client for Microsoft Networks using the Network tool in Control Panel."


Also of possible interest:

Windows 98 Networking


Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?


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Response Number 18
Name: jboy
Date: December 26, 2004 at 10:24:12 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

Mechanix - sure, I've never actually encountered one setup like that, but I was recently involved in a long, confusing post concerning one.

Compaqs have their quirks - some of the 486's weren't bad, as I recall.

I do hope there's a resolution to that post of Shorty's (but I have my doubts)


Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?


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Response Number 19
Name: name
Date: December 26, 2004 at 10:32:34 Pacific
Subject: Connecting External CDROM To Laptop
Reply: (edit)

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"""I used another laptop to install win98se on this old toshiba laptop, by switching hard drives. boy is that a job and a half."""
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Good idea, but that's not how you want to go about this. Do not "install" the operating system.

Since you obviously have figured how to swap drives, and acces the CDROM in the second laptop, here's what you do.


Either make a floppy boot that will boot the target computer, or else fdisk/format the target hdd, and "sys C" or "format C/sys" to make the hdd bootable.

make a directory on the (otherwise empty) target drive called "Win98"

From "DOS" copy the folder (directory) on your '98 CD called "Win98" to the same directory on your target hdd.

Now swap drives back, boot up the target machine, either from a floppy or directly to the hdd, and run "setup" from the "Win98" directory.

NOW you will install '98.

The only issue now, doing this, is special drivers you may need for sound, display, etc. START by going to the Toshiba support site and see if they are there.


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