It is NTFS. However, I don't know why the boot disk would be Win98, as I made it on this computer. And it's still "My Computer". (Funny, I figured the rest was mine too...)

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XP makes an ME boot disk which supports the same file formats win98 does. Good on M$ to do thing halve baked-they realise dos isn't dead by the looks lol. If you wanted an XP bootdosk it would be a set of 6 not one.

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I see. So what can I do to get at the hard drive?

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Will the game not play in XP?

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Try this Maccabeus- Click on the shortcut to the game with your alternate mouse button and choose PROPERTIES. Once inside, choose COMPATABILITY. Here you can choose to make XP act as if it were windows 95, and you can chooseresolution also that this game needs to play inside XP. There are some very nice DOS games and we still get to play them in XP. I'd be interested how you got on.

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No...it begins to run, or appears to, but as soon as the screen announcing the producer fades away nothing else happens. I was annoyed and then noticed in the troubleshooting section of the manual it was suggested that a boot disk would help.

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Same results as before. It begins and then halts as soon as the producer screen fades. I suppose it's possible that it's still starting up but is going very very slowly or that the screen is simply all black...

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Do you have an old hdd you can use and format that for dos games and use a boot disk to access it?

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For the record, the game is called Star Control II, if that helps any. I first played it on a friend's computer years ago, enjoyed it immensely, and hadn't gotten very far when he had to format his hard drive. It took years to find it again--I was surprised to find how old it was. But according both to the official and fan descriptions at the download site it ran fine. I have never been able to make it work, however.

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Unfortunately not. This is the first computer I have had since I got an Apple IIc years and years ago.

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You may be able to pick up an old pentium at a goodwill store for very little.

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Hmph. I see. Oh well. So there is no way to get at the C drive?

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You may be able to use this- http://members.tripod.ca/shaohz/download/ntfsdos30r.zip It's a dos ntfs veiwer.

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Well...I'll see if it works. Thank you.

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Please let me know how you get on. I've avoided XP because the very problems you are having.

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I get the message that ntfsdos can't find any ntfs drives. *shrugs*

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Oh well, I guess we gave it our best shot. Can I have your e-mail address just in case I come across another solution? Mine is above just remove the nospam.

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Mine is available at the very first post in the thread. BTW, I did come across one of the sites whereby I had originally relocated the game and it claims that none of the Star Control games will run in Windows XP or 2000, contrary to what I had thought. However, it claims that _no_ DOS games would work in XP, which is not what you said before, so it may be incorrect. Or, given my experiences, not.

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Being NT based is the reason for this M$ have been trying to ditch dos for years. Even created that sh--ty OS ME to try and prove how hopeless dos/win was. But it still has it's uses.

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You know, there ARE many IRC channels for this kind of stuff. It might have been easier to solve this... :)

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Ah, StarControl II. A classic, and one of my favorites. Old games like this are the reasons why I try to maintain complete backward compatilibilty on at least one PC in my possession. Never throw away old cards. Never throw away old hard disks. I still play StarControl II, the Original Civilization, the original Railroad Tycoon, etc... These games have a place in my heart. Unless you obtain an old hard disk (500 MB -2 GB), you are probably SOL when it comes to getting StarControl II to work. As posted previously, A FAT16 OS will not see a FAT32 or NTFS Hard Disk partition, etc. If you procured a second hard disk, jumped it and installed it as a slave, formatted it FAT16, you could use a DOS 6.22 boot disk to start your machine. DOS 6.22 would not SEE the FAT32 or NTFS hard disk partiton in your machine, and the slave disk would become your C: drive for that session. (You'd see the slave disk as D: or something had you booted into Win XP). With a properly written config.sys and autoexec.bat, you could get StarControl II up and running pretty easily. HOWEVER, 99.44 time out of 100 you wil NOT be able to get sound, becuase DOS games communincated with hardware directly, NOT through Drivers, per se as they do in WIndows. So, unless you also had a legacy Sound Card (an ISA Sound Card) you'd get no sound. Get an old Pentium or Pentium II PC with an ISA sound Card. Then you'd be able to play SC2 like you remember. FWIW, the origianl authors are planning to re-release StarControl II for modern OSes. It will be free-ware, but not based on the DOS version. They are using the 3DO version as the baseline. YOu can read all about it at http://www.star-control.com Click the Re-release info link on the toolbar on the left. -Doug

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Try this page and it's download link: http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/NTFSDOS.shtml It works great for me, and it has some troubleshoot tips which may help you get DOS to see that NTFS drive.

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i had the same problem and i fixed it by making a partition and putting win 98 on it then i got it to roun from there i know how i got it to work because 98 uses fat 32 and a bit of 16 but sound did work for me and i didnt have a isa sound card

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