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Name: madmaven711
Date: July 5, 2005 at 12:40:34 Pacific
OS: 98
CPU/Ram: 750/256
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I am setting a newer computer for an aged author who is using dos based Professional Write program. I have transferred all his books and the program from old to new both using windows 98SE. My problem is when I try to save the working copy of any of the larger files(books) I get the error PROBLEM DISK FULL I can save it to a new name and also save smaller files new and old but not the larger ones. I checked the programs properties and the only difference I see between old and new is in the old machine under memory the extended memory is managed and set on AUTO In the new machine the memory properties for this program states "This computer is not configured for expanded emory in MS DOS mode" When I click the details I get Third party memory management software has not been configured for expanded memory. Consult the product documentation on how to enable expanded memory. Thanks for any help re memory management or other ideas!!! LeslieO



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Response Number 1
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: July 5, 2005 at 13:01:58 Pacific
Reply:

I think you need to load emm386 in config.sys and I think you can get syntax help with emm386 /?

M2


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Response Number 2
Name: madmaven711
Date: July 5, 2005 at 13:20:06 Pacific
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Can you tell me how to do that? If I edit the config.sys from the DOs pompt what do I type in? is it; device=C:\windows\emm386.exe RAM

Also I dont understand "I think you can get help with syntax emm386/?" can you expand that. Thanks so much
LeslieO


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Response Number 3
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: July 5, 2005 at 13:32:21 Pacific
Reply:

Hu Leslie,

This should help:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/msdos/comm3.mspx


M2


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Response Number 4
Name: madmaven711
Date: July 5, 2005 at 13:54:57 Pacific
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I loaded the EMM386 into the config.sys and now I can manage the EMS in the programs properties for DOS but it did NOT make any difference inthe ability to save the working copy of the file generated by the program. I guess that means that another problem is responsible for not being able to save the large files. Shoot I thought this would fix the problem any ideas????Is there normally anything in these types of dos programs that disallows or would stop you from changing or saving a file? Thanks
LeslieO


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Response Number 5
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: July 5, 2005 at 14:07:34 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Leslie,

Better wait for somebody who has more experience than me with DOS apps in win.

What size is the partition [probably drive c:] on the one that works?

The DOS app may be making a DOS call to get available drive space and if the response is in multi-GB, the app [not surprsingly] doesn't know what to make of it and concludes that the disk is "full".

If that's the prob try a smallish partition, maybe 800MB; say NO to large drive support.

Or if you only need this particular app, format with DOS 5.0 or 6.22

HTH

M2


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Response Number 6
Name: madmaven711
Date: July 6, 2005 at 09:46:55 Pacific
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MAybe the old one taht works was on a partition about 1.8 gigs D drive which I first transferred to new machine whenI got the errors I removed and started over. changed the program and files to the old C drive then transferred to new C drive. which is a 20 gig. SAME PROBLEM I guess i will try to partition the drive with Fdisk without formatting the drive cause I have a lot of work installing windows 98 and the blankety blankety drivers plus other software I only wish I can get this nice old man to use like WORD for WINDOWS!!!!!!! oh well


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Response Number 7
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: July 6, 2005 at 23:21:17 Pacific
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"I guess i will try to partition the drive with Fdisk without formatting the drive cause I have a lot of work installing windows 98 and the blankety blankety drivers plus other softwar"

If you re-partition you will need to format.

M2


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Response Number 8
Name: hiho
Date: July 7, 2005 at 05:15:47 Pacific
Reply:

http://community.compuserve.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&tsn=1&tid=136239&webtag=ws-vintagecomp


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Response Number 9
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: July 7, 2005 at 05:49:34 Pacific
Reply:

Interesting stuff.

I would hope Leslie would not be saving to the root.

I wonder where the respondent on the other forum got the number 145 as a limit to root directory entries.

This link shows FAT16 to be 512.

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/fat_Root.htm

One of the interesting tidbits on that page:

"Under FAT32, the root directory is treated much more like a regular directory, and can be relocated and expanded in size like any other."

RELOCATED?

I'm not gonna ask.

M2


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Response Number 10
Name: jboy
Date: July 8, 2005 at 18:15:09 Pacific
Reply:

FAT16 root limit is 512 (files and folders), however if that were the case, a 'file creation' error message wuld be expected.

LFNs on a FAT16 drive use more than one entry and can lower the '512' limit considerably.

Don't think that's it, anyways - did we ever get any other errors quoted once the EMS issue was resolved?

Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid. -John Wayne


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Response Number 11
Name: madmaven711
Date: July 9, 2005 at 20:41:00 Pacific
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I got the EMS issue resolved but still get the Disk full error message. I guess I wil try to find a partitioning program and make a small partition on the hard drive and insall the program there. See if that solves the problem.


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Response Number 12
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: July 9, 2005 at 21:52:41 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Leslie,

Please let us know.

M2


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Response Number 13
Name: madmaven711
Date: July 12, 2005 at 21:30:35 Pacific
Reply:

I tired in the root directory and I tried in subdirectories I created both gave the same error ( disk full.} some of the smaller old files opened and saved fine. This saga gets more and more depressing. I was able to use his old files saved to a floppy and make the working drive A:\ and was doing fine. edited and saved several times But, He had been writing on the old laptop with the small dark screen and I saved that work to a floppy and I'll be darned if when I tried to load the file into the new machine just to work of the floppy I got the error message the file is to large to open. AUGHHH. I feel so bad I can not solve this problem. I transferred this program from the old machine and wondered if some part was missing. The program come up on ebay and I was unsuccessful in purchasing it. so I guess this whole exercise is a bust. I HATE to give up; in the past 6 years this will be the first unsolved mystery.Eventually sooner or later, the solution always has presented itself but this one has stopped me. I have temporarily give up and he is using the old machine with a monitor. (SIGH) I realy dont know that much about DOS. I do know more now than I did before, though, Thanks. LeslieO


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Response Number 14
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: July 12, 2005 at 22:45:56 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Leslie,

Since you were unable to acquire ProWrite to install, I guess you copied it from the old box. As you suggest, that may be a cause of the problem.

If ProWrite uses an INI, or similar, try renaming or moving it. The program may recreate it next time it's run.

WP51 uses wp{wp}.set
dBase uses config.db

and so on.

Is the directory where ProWrite lives in the PATH?

M2


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