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Name: J
Date: February 11, 2002 at 22:05:25 Pacific
Subject: Can not load Win95 or format hard drive
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I tried all the above with no luck. When I tried A:\Fdisk /MBR after 30sec it cam back with " The master boot code has NOT been updated" and returnes to the A:/ prompt.
fdisk alone brings up a 512 warning page and wheather I press yes or no the result is still "Error Reading Fixed Disk."

How do I know if the drive is toast?

When I run A:\>scandisk the result is " this version of Microsoft Scandisk will only work with MS-DOS versions 6.0 and later."

I am pretty sure I am using Dos 6.22

When I run fdisk /status it responds with disk 1, drv ,Mbytes 2014, free 2014, usage %

Any Ideas?

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Response Number 1
Name: Travis Langston
Date: February 07, 2002 at 02:42:35 Pacific
Subject: Can not Format or load win 95 on HD!

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The only thing I can think of right off hand is that the virus protection in your bios (if supported) might be turned on. It won't allow apps and utilities (and of course viruses) to change the info in the partition record and main boot record. Of course, normally when this happens, in my experience it will flash some sort of warning message on screen in the event of just such an occurence (intentional or not). In any case, it can't hurt to check. If not, you might try a different partitioning utility, such as Ranish Partition Manager, which is free by the way :) . Just do a search for it, it should be easy to find. As far as scandisk is concerned, it appears to be a version conflict. You subject of your post mentioned loading Win 95. If you booted from the win 95 boot floppy, your using dos 7.0 or 7.1 depending on which version of Win 95 you are using. You mentioned dos 6.22, if you have that also, I can only guess that you've mixed up the floppies after booting with one or the other and tried to run scandisk from the wrong disk after changing disks for whatever reason. If all else fails, here's a link to the computing.net faq that might help you out with your hard disk troubles:
http://computing.net/faq/contentdos/damaged.html

Good luck!

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Response Number 2
Name: J
Date: February 07, 2002 at 18:50:58 Pacific
Subject: Can not Format or load win 95 on HD!

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Travis,

I tried running ranish and I had a red window with a yellow boarder appear on the screen. It stated "Error getting hard disk parameters (OK)"
The AMIBIOS Simple Setup Utility - Version 1.16 Does not seem to contain a virus protection option anywhere in it.

As for trying scandisk with the MS-DOS Version 6.22 and using the 6.22 boot disk I received the following message:

It scanned the disk in Drive A: and it worked well "every thing checked out okay on the 3 1/2 floppy."

After typing in A:>scandisk c:
It took a while for a result and it was as follows:
A blue screen with a grey window that stated "ScanDisk cannot examine drive C. (OK)"

After pressing enter it took me back to A:>

Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

J


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Response Number 3
Name: Travis Langston
Date: February 08, 2002 at 01:13:59 Pacific
Subject: Can not Format or load win 95 on HD!

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Well, the first thing I'd do is check out the bios. Did the bios autodetect the drive? Are the hard disk parameters set correctly? What about the size of the drive?
You might check to see if you can change the translation scheme to LBA (vs. normal, or CHS), if the motherboard and bios are new enough. This has given me a problem a time or two. Your bios might be too old to support a large drive. If you know the manufacturer of the drive, you can probably get a diagnostic utility from their website specific to their hard drives to help determine whether or not this is a physical malfunction or defect. Of course if you have another device sharing the same IDE channel/cable, it could be a master/slave problem, or something similar due to misconfigured jumpers on the drive itself and perhaps the other device too. I may be assuming too much here, I don't even know if this is an IDE drive. Is it? Also let me know what the size, manufacturer, model number/name and parameters of the drive are, and maybe I can get a link to that utility in case you can't find it, or something similar. Assuming it's IDE, even if you have the jumpers set correctly, if you have another hard drive sharing the cable, sometimes they may not get along if they're from different manufacturers. If you have another device (cdrom, zip drive) on the cable, try switching it to the other channel and setting it to master to see what happens. Failing all else, try the drive with another motherboard or in another computer, if you have one handy, just to rule out the possiblity of it being defective. Let me know how it goes.

THE LATEST....

I used a 3.2G hard drive out(quantum) of a NEC 9712. After using the "detect HD " portion of the bios the system had some conflicts but all and all it was on its way to starting up Windows 95 directly from the Hard Drive.
The original hard drive I was tring to get to work was a Seagate mealist 2132 st32132a 2.1G to no alaile.
Today I puchased a NEC 1.1G hard drive thinking that the seagate may be toast.
The NEC 1.1G is responding very similarly to the Seagate 2.1G
Both hard drives documentation state that no jumpers are neccesary to run either HD by itself.
If I had to guess I would have to say I need some kind of software or DOS command to iniate the transfer of WIn95 from CD-rom to the Hard disk. Scandisk will still not recognize drive c: "The HD "

In Bios the HD is called a IDE-0
The Pri Slave is set to type User Cyln 2097 head 16 wpocom 0 sec 63 LBA mode on BLK mode on PIO Mode 4 32Bit on.

When I set the HD to Pri Master and rebooted It seemslioke I am getting closer


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Response Number 1
Name: Travis Langston
Date: February 12, 2002 at 02:24:42 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Is fdisk giving you the same error messages on the 1.1 gig NEC as the Seagate 2.1 gig? Here's a link to the Seagate Diagnostic software:

http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/B7a.html

The saga continues.........


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Response Number 2
Name: DROID
Date: February 15, 2002 at 23:49:46 Pacific
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I too have this problem and after all the above test's,...yes even the 3 different drives i used from other machines tested all wrong...even though they WERE!!! all fine. conclusion...VIRUS..maybe one like KILL CEMOS or BAD TRANS or JJ's exception exploit. im not trying to steal J's show, but it would be handy to be able to get somesort of cemos/registry anti-virus program to kill this worm.surely some one can help. this is a general issue people,so hopefully the moron who wants all your sys specs when all you want to do is change your wallpaper in windows won't reply.all the best J i think both you and i both need it..LOL


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Response Number 3
Name: Sheri
Date: May 17, 2002 at 08:44:27 Pacific
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Trying to format my hard drive but I get this message saying that its lock. Never saw or heard of this before. Operating system is Win Me, Please Help.


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