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Name: Henry
Date: June 4, 2002 at 11:24:49 Pacific
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Hi, is there an analog clock for DOS? My DOS computer specs are below

CPU = 8086 @ 8MHz
RAM = 512 KB
No hard drive.
(one of the first pc's.....)



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Response Number 1
Name: Andrew Ordo
Date: June 4, 2002 at 12:14:48 Pacific
Reply:

By "analog clock", what exactly do you mean?

Are you talking about hardware or software?

Are you talking about an external analog clock you could connect to your computer? (Incredibly, I've actually seen such a thing. It was used for employee time card applications. Bizarre, but people do strange things with modern technology.)

Are you talking about some sort of software that displays a picture of an analog clock on the screen?



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Response Number 2
Name: Henry
Date: June 4, 2002 at 12:27:44 Pacific
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I'm talking about software that shows a analog clock on my screen that shows the real time. But it must be compatible with the first intel cpu, the 8086. Thats the kind of processor it has...


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Response Number 3
Name: Andrew Ordo
Date: June 4, 2002 at 13:04:55 Pacific
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Oh, in that case, any such MS-DOS or PC-DOS program should work. (It isn't really that processor-specific. The 8086, 8088, 80286, 80386, 80486, Pentium, Pentium Pro, Pentium II, etc. are all object code compatible when used in real mode DOS. (Well... there *are* some very slight differences, but I doubt they're relevant to this thread.)

Ever think about searching the 'net for the software you're looking for? I did a quick Yahoo! search and found loads of analog clock software, including programs for DOS. It took literally less than a minute. Here's a few of the links (of which there were several) that turned up:

http://www.simtel.net/pub/msdos/clocks/

http://www.wizard.com/users/mlf/public_html/PROGRAMS.HTM

http://www.web8201.com/flist.htm


There's lots more. Just do a search using Google, Altavista, or some other search engine. It's amazing what you can find on the internet. Search engines are our friends.


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Response Number 4
Name: Henry
Date: June 4, 2002 at 13:09:59 Pacific
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I have used the search and every thing I found made the 8086 computer make a buzzing sound or crash...


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Response Number 5
Name: Andrew Ordo
Date: June 4, 2002 at 13:26:55 Pacific
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Your computer's CPU is an 8086? What sort of system is this? The IBM PC, XT, and compatibles all used Intel 8088s, NEC V-20s, etc. that had 8-bit I/O busses. I'm not aware of *any* PC/XT compatible system that used the 8086 (the 8086 requires a different motherboard design to accommodate the 16-bit wide I/O buss).

Also, what sort of DOS are you running?


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Response Number 6
Name: Andrew Ordo
Date: June 4, 2002 at 13:35:33 Pacific
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By the way, the 8086 was by not the first Intel processor.

That distinction goes to the Intel 4004, a four-bit processor introduced in 1971. It was followed up with the 8-bit 8008 in 1972, the 8010 (So named because it was "ten times faster than the 8008. I think the IBM Model 5100 used this, but I could very well be wrong.) shortly after that, then the 8085 (used in the IBM DisplayWriter system), then the 8086 and the 8088. It was the 8088 that was used in the IBM PC (the Model 5150), the IBM XT (Model 5160) and many compatibles.

I bet your system is an IBM XT clone. (All IBM PCs and XTs ran their 8088s at 4.77MHz, although many compatibles offered higher speeds. I've got some oddball no-name "XT Turbo Board" in my collection with an 8088-compatible SONY processor that runs at a whopping 10MHz. Whoo-hoo!)

If this is the case and you've got an Intel chip, I bet it's an 8088.


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Response Number 7
Name: Henry
Date: June 4, 2002 at 13:35:48 Pacific
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It is the IBM PS/2 Model 25. It is running DOS 6.22. It was the first PS/2 I think. This one has no hard drive. It is using a 720k boot disk. The B drive is a 1.44 drive. I can take a picture on my digital camera. It has a black and white screen. So thats why I put a 8-BIT VGA board in it. So now it can do 360x480 at 256 colors. Instead of 640x400x16...


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Response Number 8
Name: Henry
Date: June 4, 2002 at 13:38:41 Pacific
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Heres proof of what it is...

http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/ps225.htm

Mine is upgraded on the floppy drive without a hd...


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Response Number 9
Name: Henry
Date: June 4, 2002 at 13:47:40 Pacific
Reply:

A better one.. Notice it says "The 8525-004 is the same as the 8525-001, only it features a color display". I have the 001. And the 001 only has 512k of ram...

http://www.walshcomptech.com/m25.htm


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Response Number 10
Name: Andrew Ordo
Date: June 4, 2002 at 14:20:39 Pacific
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Ah!--a PS/2! Very cool. I mistakenly assumed you had a PC/XT clone. That explains the 8086. (Later models of the Model 25 PS/2 used an 80286 CPU. I have only seen the 286-based Model 25 PS/2s. I didn't even know there was a 8086 version. (It wouldn't have been difficult to adapt the original Model 25 to use the 286, as both use a 16-bit I/O buss.)

This looks essentially like an XT with a 16-bit I/O buss and an MCGA display.

Now for the noise and crashing:

I am totally, completely stumped.

According to Intel, the 8086 and 8088 are 100% object code compatible, and I believe 'em. I wish I could help, but I've no clue why you're having problems.


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Response Number 11
Name: Andrew Ordo
Date: June 4, 2002 at 14:28:03 Pacific
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You know, if these clock programs are talking directly to the RTC/NVRAM chip on your PS/2's system board, well... that's pretty low level access ("on the metal", as some say).

There could be something inherent in the PS/2 design that could be causing a compatibility issue with these clock programs. Software that talks to hardware on such a low level is often sensitive to very slight differences in architecture.

If you can't find a clock program that doesn't cause problems on your system, you may just be out of luck.


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Response Number 12
Name: Henry
Date: June 4, 2002 at 14:54:21 Pacific
Reply:

I found one.. It runs in Qbasic though. And it is just lines, but it works ok. I remember getting help on this computer a while ago. I needed a JPEG, GIF, and a BMP viewer for it. I got a color graphics card on it (needs seperate monitor, oh great, more monitors on the desk.) It takes a minute to fill 360x480 lines of resolution at 256 colors...


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Response Number 13
Name: Hmm
Date: June 5, 2002 at 14:31:41 Pacific
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You could see if pcgeos 1.x will run on the thing. I had it running on an XT clone in hercules mode just fine with 640k of memory.
Only 16 colours though.

Mutli-tasking/multi-threading on an xt lol ors so the documentation suggested.


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Response Number 14
Name: Henry
Date: June 5, 2002 at 16:05:55 Pacific
Reply:

where can i find it???


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Response Number 15
Name: JackG
Date: June 7, 2002 at 08:02:54 Pacific
Reply:

With the old PS/2 Model 25 (8086), any program that does not use the standard BIOS level call for getting the time, will crash as you described. That machine uses some real strange hardware and BIOS code to keep track of the time, and "normal" hardware access code will crash. Sad to say.

The machine was really designed to be used on a network as a terminal.

If you can find the source code written in the old version of BASIC (a clock.BAS) file, then you can run it with BASIC or BASICA which came with the IBM PC versions of DOS. On that machine BASIC is built into the ROM, but you still need to version on the old DOS IBM PC DOS diskettes to access it.

I downloaded a "sample" clock.bas for QBasic and compiled it into an 40K EXE file that might work. Very simple display though. But do not have a way to send it to no e-mail address.


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Response Number 16
Name: Henry
Date: June 7, 2002 at 09:16:00 Pacific
Reply:

I found that one, but now I have Windows 2.03 on it, so I just use the Windows clock application... The clock.bas I got had a EXE file and the source code (QBasic file...)


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