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Name: topz
Date: November 20, 2000 at 12:09:02 Pacific
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I got some old 486's (3 of for FREE), now Im trying to get them to go. The problem is that it will not boot a floppy, the a:drive works, the BOIS looks right. But no booting just a MSG saying non boot or system disk (or something like that), Iv tryed diffrent boot disk (even download boot disk images) but nout'works?8-¬(
the hard drive in is complety blank(&fomated) I need help on this as it doing my head in, what I want is to get DOS SHELL 5 on the hard drive then Windows 3.11

AnyO
Topz



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Response Number 1
Name: neXussT
Date: November 20, 2000 at 12:39:30 Pacific
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it might be the floopy drive..check to see if it's dirty
if still you can't get it to work, take the hard drive out of the 486 and put it in u're main computer and put the system files on it, then put it back into u're 486..u should then be able to boot it up with out a floppy


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Response Number 2
Name: topz
Date: November 20, 2000 at 12:42:25 Pacific
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I know the disk drive is OK, so I try the second idea, (later).

Thnx
Topz

Keep'em coming


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Response Number 3
Name: Name
Date: November 20, 2000 at 13:09:06 Pacific
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Are you sure you don't have a 720k drive with a 1.44mb disc in it?


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Response Number 4
Name: topz
Date: November 20, 2000 at 13:17:09 Pacific
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to name

yes mate tested that, made boot disk on single sided disk (& chaged the BIOS) still did not work, tested the disk drive on another system, it worked fine (& is 1.44)

thnx
topz


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Response Number 5
Name: topz
Date: November 20, 2000 at 14:55:48 Pacific
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my head hurts 8-(
neXussT

made the hard drive Im using for this (Quantum prodrive lps 99mb) bootible, tested-> boots to the prompt up when in my main system. got my sytem to auto detect the hard drive copyed the info down(so I could set the Bois on the 486 to the hard drive).
-->
486 now goes
BEEP BEEP
HDD Controller Failure
Press To Resume
BEEP BEEP
Drive Not Ready Error

Oh my what can I do?
Topz


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Response Number 6
Name: Ronin
Date: November 20, 2000 at 18:16:20 Pacific
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Did you check the cable on the floppy drive? Installing the drive without the twisted pair connector will cause this problem. How about the boot sequence? A: c: Other possibilities are a bad cable, or a faulty power supply.

As far as the hdd, older motherboards are often picky about how a drive is jumpered and reported to the bios. If the bios doesn't support LBA mode and your drive is using LBA addressing it will fail if the bios is expecting CHS. Likewise, if the drive's jumper is set to master, and the bios is expecting a slave this will cause an error. Try setting the drive to its cable select jumper.

You seem fairly knowledgeable to me, so hang in here. I'm sure you'll figure it out.


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Response Number 7
Name: topz
Date: November 21, 2000 at 10:16:28 Pacific
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The twist is on the cable to the A:
Boot sequence tryed both(1 for a,c for trying to boot from the floppy & c,a for trying to boot from the hard drive)
The HD is set to master and it is the primery IDE drive.
but....
what is LBA & CHS>?

& now the only thing I know is that I know nothing..

topz


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Response Number 8
Name: topz
Date: November 21, 2000 at 10:58:38 Pacific
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ok ~I looked up LBA & CHS

no way.
I have to configer th BIOS my (eek) with all the HD setting. The BIOS in the 486s is v2,
also the battery is dead, so I need to set the BIOS when booted up from cold.
I think the setting for the HD is right, (auto detact from my other (newer better system) which tells me all the setting ->CHS, but not the park area (landing zone).

topz


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Response Number 9
Name: topz
Date: November 22, 2000 at 15:36:56 Pacific
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sorted 8-)

1 of the disk drive is dead(there was 3)
& the IDE cable I was using was dodgy,
got a new IDE cable and made sure the disk drive in was working.

a: works
c: master works
d: slave works

now all I need to do is get DOS & Windows on it and then get the other two 486 systems working, O um...

Topz
Thnx all


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