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Name: Paul Hardwick
Date: January 11, 2003 at 06:56:39 Pacific
OS: Win 98 (SE)
CPU/Ram: AMD Athlon 2000+ / 512Mb
Comment:

Trying to put an AMD Athlon 2000+ onto a a7v333 and it isn't running at the suggested speed of 1667Mhz. I can only seem to get it working at 12.5x 120 (1500Mhz). I do have PC2100 RAM installed - does this make a difference? I've got the voltage at 1.75v, but have tried higher (up to 1.85v) without success. The rest of the settings are factory default. Any idea what's going wrong?

TIA.

Paul.



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Response Number 1
Name: ben rogers
Date: January 11, 2003 at 07:35:32 Pacific
Reply:

What power supply do you have?


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Response Number 2
Name: Gary
Date: January 11, 2003 at 11:46:42 Pacific
Reply:

I too am having the same problem..I just recently hooked everything up same motherboard and CPU as well. I have the motherboard set on factory default jumper free settings. and the highest i can get my AMD XP2000+ to run at is 1.25ghz...I updated the bios with the newest version from ASUS and i can select cpu speed of 1.25ghz..1.6ghz.and 2+ghz...when i put the cpu speed on a selected speed in the bios setup i receive a message saying something about the memory threshold cannot be lower then 333mhz or something...The computer will only run if the cpu speed is set to run at MANUAL....Any ideas...I have a 300Watt power supply.


Thanks in advance,

-Gary


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Response Number 3
Name: Paul Hardwick
Date: January 11, 2003 at 13:14:04 Pacific
Reply:

The PSU is a 300W one, (just like Gary's). Is that a problem?



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Response Number 4
Name: RF85
Date: January 11, 2003 at 13:28:19 Pacific
Reply:

have you tried going to the bios and setting the FSB to 133? i have the borad and im running he 2100xp and pc2100 and a 350w PSU. so try going to the bios and change the FSB.


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Response Number 5
Name: D@VE
Date: January 11, 2003 at 13:36:47 Pacific
Reply:

Paul Hardwick - I was going to say what RF85 said. Your motherboard should have the FSB set at 133, then the multiplier should set the CPU to the proper speed. Also, is that 1.75v what your XP2000+ normally runs at ? I'm just curious, because my XP1700+ runs at 1.8v


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Response Number 6
Name: andrew direct
Date: January 11, 2003 at 15:27:01 Pacific
Reply:


I have exactly the same problem. AMD XP2000+

If you set the freq in the bias to 133mhz,you can only set the multiplier to a max of 12.5 (133*12.5) = 1662


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Response Number 7
Name: Gary
Date: January 11, 2003 at 16:24:14 Pacific
Reply:

ALright..well i adjusted the frequency on my board and got it to run at the proper rate of 1.6ghz...it shuts down properly but when i choose to restart the computer from windows XP it goes through the process and then hangs at a blanck screen after it exits windows and the green power led light stays on....Any ideas as to what could be causing this? I still have the MB set on jumper free mode.

Thanks again,

-Gary


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Response Number 8
Name: ben rogers
Date: January 11, 2003 at 16:27:53 Pacific
Reply:

A cheap 300W PSU will probably not be enough for that kinda setup. Ones that come with cheap cases are usually weak. Have a look at the sticker on the right hand side of the PSU. What are the voltages on the following lines?

+3.3VDC
+5VDC
+12VDC


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Response Number 9
Name: Gary
Date: January 11, 2003 at 17:18:18 Pacific
Reply:

Was the above response to my "restart" problem or just the general power supply discussion? Do you think that my power supply which is a 300watt would have any relation to the "restart problem" because the machine starts up and shutsdown fine. It only hangs while selecting restart in XP...any suggestions or solutions?

Thanks again,

Gary


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Response Number 10
Name: Paul Hardwick
Date: January 12, 2003 at 05:01:03 Pacific
Reply:

Ben Rogers. I'm afraid that the PC has gone to my brother who I built the computer for, so I can't look at the exact details (I can find it out though). I think, if I remember rightly, that the power for those voltages were about 130W. The max output was 300W. I guess this is a "cheap" psu? I think the case cost about £60!!!

Also, D@ve mentioned about the voltage the CPU is running at. Since I'm running in Jumperless mode, I thought I'd leave it to whatever the BIOS thought was the best for the CPU. It defaulted to 1.75v, but I did try changing this to various voltages up to the max allowed - 1.85v, without success!

Should I get a better PSU?

Paul Hardwick


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Response Number 11
Name: ben rogers
Date: January 12, 2003 at 10:22:29 Pacific
Reply:

Paul - Yep, it sounds like the PSU is weak. I think your refering to 130W for the 3.3 and 5VDC rails combined total output. If it is, I doubt it's enough to power all of your components. I run an XP1600 w/ 320MB of RAM with a 300W PSU but the total combined output on the 3.3 and 5V rails is 180W. This PSU is at it's limit and I have onboard graphics.

Gary - It sounds like yours is a weak PSU too unfortunately, althouth it's hard to work out without voltages. Could you see what the voltages are in the BIOS for the rails I posted in an above thread? This would give more info.


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Response Number 12
Name: ben rogers
Date: January 12, 2003 at 10:25:53 Pacific
Reply:

Maybe, if it's a Windows problems this patch may help:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307274


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Response Number 13
Name: RF85
Date: January 13, 2003 at 13:18:06 Pacific
Reply:

i used to have the same problem, but it was because i installed easy cd creator5 and it made my system unstable. so if u installed a software that system unstable try unstalling.


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Response Number 14
Name: Mike B Australian
Date: January 14, 2003 at 06:59:34 Pacific
Reply:

Why is everyone so eager to condemn power supplies? I have a cheap Codegen 300watt that happily runs my system here in AUS:
Athlon XP2000+
SiS735 K7S5A Mobo
256mb PC2100
40gig WD w/8mb cache
15gig Fujitsu
Liteon CD Drive
Teac Burner
& 200mm 240volt Ceiling fan casemod ALL from this cheap power supply and my computer can stay up for days on end. Bad BIOS settings I reckon, RAM or video card, never anything else that I've come across over the years! :0)


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Response Number 15
Name: Paul Hardwick
Date: January 14, 2003 at 15:05:15 Pacific
Reply:

This is what I was thinking, Mike. My thoughts were a bad BIOS setup, but I can't see for the life of me what they should be. I've heard of a problem with the power supplies being too weak for the job, but I've never actually came across it like this. This is not the way I would have thought a weak PSU would manifest itself. Any other ideas, and I'm all ears!

Paul.


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Response Number 16
Name: Pierre
Date: February 6, 2003 at 08:09:32 Pacific
Reply:

I am having the same problem and have actually just posted a similar message. Can any of you confirm outrageous CPU temperatures for CPUs that are underperforming? My XP 2000+ shoots up to 70 degrees celsius as soon as I turn on the system and keeps climbing as it stays on. I am thinking this has something to do with the CPU "underperformance". Can anyone corroborate this? it seems a relatively common issue, have there been any recommendations from ASUS or AMD?


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Response Number 17
Name: mwhite
Date: February 20, 2003 at 03:21:43 Pacific
Reply:

Hello everyone,

I have an MSI KT3 ultra2 MB with am XP2000+ chip and had similar problems to you lot.

First, the bios was set to "default" which meant the FSB speed was set to 100MHz. During startup, the processor I.D. came up as "AMD 1250MHz processor".

I changed the bios to optimal settings (this set the FSB to 133MHZ). On restarting, the processor I.D. now said "XP2000+" but the system would not start up properly, it just kept on crashing at different points in the startup process. It was the same on WIN98 and XP.

Eventually I tracked the problem down to the PSU. The one I was using had worked absoutely fine on my previous set up, but just couldn't supply the current for the new setup.

I fitted a new 300W PSU (not from an OEM case)and things have been hunky dorey ever since!

Hope this helps.


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