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Name: martin16v
Date: March 16, 2007 at 04:08:07 Pacific
OS: xp pro
Comment:

iv been running my Barton for a long time now with the below settings.
Abit NF7-S V2.0 Mobo,
xp2500 mobile @ 200x11/1.525v,
2X512 crucial Pc3200/11.2.2.2.5
idle 41c

so i had some spare time and dissided to see i could push it some more.
hears the final result, or i should say what I'm happy with

xp2500 mobile @ 217x11/1.6v,
the problem i have is i can't seem to be able to tighten the ram timming, can only use the aggressive option.
any help?

xp pro/sp 2
120gb hdd
plextor dvd-r
mats---a dvd-rom
Abit NF7-S V2.0 Mobo,
xp2500 mobile @ 200x11/1.575v,
2X512 crucial Pc3200,
MSI X800 Pro-TD256 AGP 256M
PA9C-42CU cooper hea



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Response Number 1
Name: jam
Date: March 16, 2007 at 07:13:24 Pacific
Reply:

Your RAM timings are tight.

Try 2-2-2-11 or 2.5-3-3-11 w/1T command rate.


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Response Number 2
Name: martin16v
Date: March 16, 2007 at 07:43:22 Pacific
Reply:

sorry i should i was't able to keep 11.2.2.2.5 after i uped it to 217 fsb.

"w/1T command rate" ?? what do you meen ;-)

xp pro/sp 2
120gb hdd
plextor dvd-r
mats---a dvd-rom
Abit NF7-S V2.0 Mobo,
xp2500 mobile @ 200x11/1.575v,
2X512 crucial Pc3200,
MSI X800 Pro-TD256 AGP 256M
PA9C-42CU cooper hea


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Response Number 3
Name: redhat9
Date: March 16, 2007 at 08:02:09 Pacific
Reply:

The NF7 is a damn good Socket A motherboard from Abit, I remember back in the days with my Socket A, I was able to overclock a mobile chip quite high. The unlocked multiplier on mine was pretty cool. ;-)

P4 Prescott 478 2.8
1024MB GSKILL DDR400
RADEON X800GTO AGP
2x320 SATA SEGATE
INTEL D865GLC


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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: March 16, 2007 at 08:48:51 Pacific
Reply:

This will explain what command rate is:

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hard...

I don't know if your board has the option to change it or not. If not, try using CPUZ to find out what the default command rate is & check that the CPU & RAM are running at the same bus speed (1:1 ratio):

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

Also, you mentioned the "aggressive" option...you should be using the "expert" setting for both memory & system performance.

Make sure to lock the AGP at 66MHz (possibly 67MHz) & if there are any Spread Spectrum settings, disable them. And if you're running an SATA HDD, it will limit the ability to overclock somewhat.


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Response Number 5
Name: TMP-Man
Date: March 16, 2007 at 09:02:41 Pacific
Reply:

Why don't you try to +0.1v on your dimm voltage to see if you can get 2.5-2-2-11? I think most DDR400 memory can handle all the way upto 2.8-2.9v...

TMP-Man

Asus P5P800-SE PAT
P4 506 @ 4009Mhz 1.3625v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 1700RPM 92MM + AS5
2GB OCZ 2-3-2-5 DDR400
120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD
Leadtek 7600 AGP 590/1600 VF700 ALCU AS5


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Response Number 6
Name: martin16v
Date: March 16, 2007 at 09:19:17 Pacific
Reply:

i had a good look around the bios but i could't see a option to change the command rate.
cpuz showed bank cycle time and everything below it including command rate, empty boxs, greyed out?
so i booted up Everest Ultimate 2007. hears a small sample of the read out.



Memory Timings
CAS Latency (CL) 3T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 4T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 4T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 9T
Row Cycle Time (tRC) 13T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 15T
Command Rate (CR) 1T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 3T
Read To Read Delay (tRTR) 2T
Read To Write Delay (tRTW) 4T
Write To Read Delay (tWTR) 3T

can i assume the the default is 1T?

thanks jam all your tips i did some time ago.


xp pro/sp 2
120gb hdd
plextor dvd-r
mats---a dvd-rom
Abit NF7-S V2.0 Mobo,
xp2500 mobile @ 200x11/1.575v,
2X512 crucial Pc3200,
MSI X800 Pro-TD256 AGP 256M
PA9C-42CU cooper hea


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Response Number 7
Name: Kailas
Date: March 16, 2007 at 10:46:35 Pacific
Reply:

You are right now running at 1T. The default on most boards will be the safest timing, which is 2T. Some boards by default choose to time the RAMs according to the SPD, while some give you the option to choose from 'From SPD' and 'Manual'.
Again, there is not standard here, the 'default' depends on the board.

Kailas Shastry

3000+ Venice, A8N-E, 512MB x 2, 160GB Barracuda, 380W CM


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