Solved Win XP Pro 32 on an i7-3630QM?

February 5, 2014 at 20:16:08
Specs: Windows 8
I was strong-armed into an HP ENVY dv6 Notebook PC with Intel i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz running Win8. I've tried to like it, really, but it's terrible. I'm using Classic Shell for the UI, which makes things almost okay, but I want to kill Win8 and run Win XP Pro, the 32 bit version, on this notebook. Can I do this?

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February 6, 2014 at 16:07:47
"As far as MS dropping support for XP, I don't know what their support does for me"

No support means no more security updates, no more bug fixes, etc. There probably won't be any problems at 1st, but if/when hackers find new vulnerabilities, M$ won't be there to plug the holes so the hackers will be free to exploit them. And since XP is still used on 25-30% of computers worldwide (many of them businesses), it's a very attractive target. And contrary to what some people may say, no one wants Win8, so count yourself as part of the majority. The numbers don't lie - Win8 is the new Vista, Win7 is the new XP!

http://www.netmarketshare.com/opera...

If you insist on installing XP 32-bit, there are at least a few issues to be aware of. 1st of all, XP came out before SATA drives became available so it doesn't natively support them. That means to get XP to install, you'll either have to change the hard drive setting in the BIOS to IDE mode or create a new XP disc which contains the SATA drivers. You may also have problems due to the amount of RAM. Since you have an i7 system, I suspect you have at least 8GB. XP only supports up to 4GB (with approx 3.0-3.5GB useable). It should work OK with 8GB (or more) but there have been a few reports of problems when running that much. Another thing is driver support which was mentioned before.

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February 5, 2014 at 20:41:16
I can relate. I got my Inspiron 7720 laptop from Dell, and because I waited an extra 3 days I had no choice but to order Windows 8. I didn't like it, but I've come to terms with the fact that I don't really have much of a choice as I don't want/can't go buy Windows 7.

I wouldn't recommend using the 32 bit for that. You might run into problems using 32 bit not to mention you can only use 3.5Gb of your RAM.

Unless you already have the XP disk on-hand and don't want to buy a new OS disk, I'd get Windows 7 Home 64-bit, and install that. Make sure you backup all your current files to an external hard-drive or a couple larger thumbdrives, and then install from a clean partition. Of course, you sound like you know enough to do all this yourself.

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February 6, 2014 at 06:12:25
I would not recommend XP. It's outdated, official support is going to be dropped in a couple of months, it's only 32-bit so memory will be an issue (explained above), & it's very possible you won't be able to find compatible drivers for your modern hardware. Either learn to live with Win8 w/Classic Shell or install Win7 64-bit or Linux.

"I don't really have much of a choice as I don't want/can't go buy Windows 7"

Uh, you don't have to buy Win7. The software can be legally downloaded for free, all you need is a product key for the installation (or know how to work around it). Such things can't be discussed in these forums but google will show you the way. You can legally install Win7 without a product key & it will work for 30 days. During that time you will constantly be prompted to activate, but Windows will otherwise work as it should. If it's not activated within the 30-day period, you will no longer be able to boot into Windows. At that point, you can wipe the drive & reinstall Win7 again & it will work for another 30 days.

The ISO for Win7 Ultimate 64Bit w/SP1 can be downloaded here: direct download - Win7 Ultimate 64-bit w/ SP1 (3.09GB)

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February 6, 2014 at 14:15:05
Thanks for the replies!

What I'm hearing is "not recommended" and "may have problems" due to memory addressing limitations and perhaps potential addressing conflicts. Good to know, truly, but I'm not hearing anything quite like "will not run on that system" Yours Truly, Sr. Intel Guy.

Yes, I do have the WinXP Pro discs on hand.

I appreciate the cautions on memory addressing limitations though I can't imagine needing more than 3GB. Autocad R14 ran happily on the old XP box with 2GB, as would an equally dated version of Photoshop.

As far as MS dropping support for XP, I don't know what their support does for me. I'd be happy if everything just kept working the way it is, or was. I don't need patches for problems I'm not encountering. What about new stuff and newly discovered vulnerabilities, you say? I promise to install no new stuff! Vulnerabilities though, that's a problem.

Drivers? I'll have to replace a perfectly good Lexmark printer and an LG cell phone because Win8 doesn't have the drivers and I can't get to old ones to install. And lack of drivers for existing stuff is just the start of my woes. But I expect lots of folks complain about Win8. Uselessly and annoyingly.

Bleah.

Rather than causing even bigger headaches than currently have, guess I'll try to solve the specific short comings, like figuring out how to manually add Eudora to Win8 list of installed programs so I can set it as my default mail app.

Thanks again for your replies!

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February 6, 2014 at 16:07:47
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"As far as MS dropping support for XP, I don't know what their support does for me"

No support means no more security updates, no more bug fixes, etc. There probably won't be any problems at 1st, but if/when hackers find new vulnerabilities, M$ won't be there to plug the holes so the hackers will be free to exploit them. And since XP is still used on 25-30% of computers worldwide (many of them businesses), it's a very attractive target. And contrary to what some people may say, no one wants Win8, so count yourself as part of the majority. The numbers don't lie - Win8 is the new Vista, Win7 is the new XP!

http://www.netmarketshare.com/opera...

If you insist on installing XP 32-bit, there are at least a few issues to be aware of. 1st of all, XP came out before SATA drives became available so it doesn't natively support them. That means to get XP to install, you'll either have to change the hard drive setting in the BIOS to IDE mode or create a new XP disc which contains the SATA drivers. You may also have problems due to the amount of RAM. Since you have an i7 system, I suspect you have at least 8GB. XP only supports up to 4GB (with approx 3.0-3.5GB useable). It should work OK with 8GB (or more) but there have been a few reports of problems when running that much. Another thing is driver support which was mentioned before.

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February 6, 2014 at 22:05:40
Thanks again for the informative replies!

Ah ha. SATA drive support. Didn't consider that. I'll turn these XP Pro discs into coasters and take a good look at Win7.

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February 7, 2014 at 07:23:28
Windows 7 is my preference but I also have had to get accustomed to Windows 8.1 at work (workable, but can get annoying at times). You can get Windows 7 64bit Home OEM disks periodically on sale for around $80. and Pro for around $120. +/- $5. Try New Egg first if you are from US.
I purchased an extra copy a couple of months back to save for my next build which probably will be later this year and would highly recommend it for you.

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