"i would glue the two heat sinks together with asta, the stock cpu hsf that comes with the wolfdale, and the one already on the northbrige, i can do it as long as theres enough room" What are you smoking & where can I buy some? lol. It ain't gonna work. "And that's the fishing line, because Sharkboy said so!"

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ok so how do i rank the following in terms of overall speed? is there a formula to estimate? i dont want to buy a whole bunch of mobos and ram and bench em all. 1066fsb - 533ram - 1:1 1066fsb - 667ram - 4:5 1066fsb - 800ram - 2:3 1066fsb - 1066ram - 1:2 1333fsb - 533ram - 5:4 1333fsb - 667ram - 1:1 1333fsb - 1000ram - 2:3 1600fsb - 800ram - 1:1 1600fsb - 1066ram - 4:3

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I recently read that pairing a Core 2 with memory running twice as fast as the CPU bus also results in great performance. For example, a system combining PC8500 memory with a 1066MHz FSB CPU (for a 1:2 ratio) would yield better performance than a system running the same CPU with PC4200 (1:1). Of course, not having a Core 2 system to play with, I wouldn't know how much faster 1:2 truly is, or if it's faster at all. However, I'd imagine that the 1:2 CPU:DRAM ratio would greatly improve the performance of systems with integrated graphics. Super P3-Now with Blu-Ray playback! PIII-S @ 1.66GHz 2GB PC2700 AGP HD3650 LiteOn BD-ROM Homebuilt 1080p projector w/ Pixelworks HDMI controller JBL 5.1 audio

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jackbomb: Where did you read that ? Also, I think that the chipset being used would make a difference as well as to whether that would work well.

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If you can dig up that article, I'd love to have a look at it. "I would like to stress that in most cases you should consider DDR2-800 SDRAM to be the best choice for Core 2 Duo based platforms. As we have already demonstrated in this article, the overclocked system can reach its highest performance level in case the processor bus and the memory bus are clocked synchronously. And keeping in mind that the typical Conroe overclocking usually occurs at about 400MHz FSB frequency, then the overclocker’s DDR2-800 SDRAM can be recommended as the best choice for most enthusiasts." http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/me... "There are many enterprising overclockers out there, I included, who run well over 500MHz for the FSB frequency, which is quite a bit more than the 333MHz Intel officially endorses. In addition to that, we use the excellent 1:1 divider to make sure our memory is also working at top speed. The result is bandwidth parity between the RAM and the FSB, meaning that the FSB is feeding the RAM as much information it is hungry for, rather than a weak FSB under-delivering to RAM which could take so much more." http://www.overclock.net/hardware-n... "When the memory frequency is higher than 800MHz, the bandwidth indeed stops to grow further which coincides with the maximum bandwidth of the FSB at 400MHz. You can see that the effective bandwidth growth is about 15% on switching from 600MHz to 800MHz memory frequency, but a mere 2% on switching from 800MHz to 1000MHz. The memory latency tests confirm the point: the latency almost stops to decrease after an 800MHz memory frequency. So, it is clear that DDR2-1000 SDRAM cannot bring about a significant performance gain in comparison with DDR2-800 SDRAM on Core 2 Duo platforms even when the FSB is overclocked to 400MHz." http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/me... "And that's the fishing line, because Sharkboy said so!"

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I'm pretty sure that I read the article over at anandtech.com, but I'm having trouble finding it. Found this on Wikipedia, though: "...for the Conroe CPUs with FSB of 1066 MT/s, the ideal memory speed for DDR2 is PC2-4200 or PC2-8500 (twice the speed of PC2-4200)." "On jobs requiring large amounts of memory access, the quad-core Core 2 processors can benefit significantly from using a PC2-8500 memory, which runs exactly twice as fast as the FSB..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_... Super P3-Now with Blu-Ray playback! PIII-S @ 1.66GHz 2GB PC2700 AGP HD3650 LiteOn BD-ROM Homebuilt 1080p projector w/ Pixelworks HDMI controller JBL 5.1 audio

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http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=ge... "And that's the fishing line, because Sharkboy said so!"

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That madshrimps conclusion page says nothing about the use of PC8500 memory with FSB-1066 processors. I agree wholeheartedly that PC5300 isn't the best choice of memory for an FSB-1066 CPU. If, for some strange reason, I purchased 400MHz PC6400 memory for use in a C2-1066 system, I would underclock it to 266MHz (though only after trying my luck at 533MHz). So, PC5300+FSB1066=bad. But judging by the lost anandtech(?) article and Wikipedia clip, it sounds as if PC8500 is just as good a choice as (and likely better than) PC4200 memory for an FSB-1066 CPU--especially Core 2 Quad. Makes sense--additional processor cores require additional memory bandwidth in order to shine. Again, I don't have a Core 2-based system to tinker with, so I cannot confirm these claims, but it does make sense that memory running exactly twice as fast as the CPU bus would provide performance at least as great as memory running at bus speed. Since PC8500 is still quite costly (I think), it does make more sense at the moment to purchase cheap PC5300 and underclock it to 266MHz than to buy PC8500. Super P3-Now with Blu-Ray playback! PIII-S @ 1.66GHz 2GB PC2700 AGP HD3650 LiteOn BD-ROM Homebuilt 1080p projector w/ Pixelworks HDMI controller JBL 5.1 audio

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