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Which cpu..AMD64 '3200' or '3000' ?
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Name: g7rta
Date: February 26, 2006 at 08:23:38 Pacific
Subject: Which cpu..AMD64 '3200' or '3000' ?OS: Win XP HomeCPU/Ram: AMD 64 3200+ / 1GB Ram |
Comment: Hi, my AMD Athlon 64 3200+ cpu has blown for some reason & I need a new one.
My 3200+ had 1mb cache, this was a 'Clawhammer' model. Clawhammer was one of the earlier models. I have seen a 3000+ 'Newcastle' (512mb) which although has less cache, it's a newer model.
I have also seen a 3000+ 'Venice' (512mb) which is even newer still. My question is... am I better off looking for a 3200+ with 1mb or would I notice any reduction of performance with a newer 3000+ cpu ?
Hope this makes sense.
Regards
Steve G7RTA
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Response Number 1
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Name: jam
Date: February 26, 2006 at 08:50:50 Pacific
Subject: Which cpu..AMD64 '3200' or '3000' ? |
Reply: (edit)Are you 100% sure it's the CPU? It's pretty hard to blow an A64...they're thermally protected, just like the P4, so it's virtually impossible to overheat one to death. I'd do some troubleshooting before jumping to conclusions...it's more likely your power supply gave out. A bad PSU may still put out enough power to spin fans & light up LEDs, but not have enough to boot a system.
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Response Number 2
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Name: g7rta
Date: February 26, 2006 at 09:04:21 Pacific
Subject: Which cpu..AMD64 '3200' or '3000' ? |
Reply: (edit)Hi, yes I'm sure, well almost.
Problem I'm getting is very loud & long beeps instead of booting up. I've done a lot of testing over the last 2 days. The psu is a very heavy duty 480W one, made by Tagan. Last night, I swapped it for a different psu & it made no difference, so I know it's definately not the psu.
Neither is it the memory, (tried it in another pc) or the graphics card (have tried several, including a pci card) & I know the motherboard is not at fault (I thought this was the problem - so I bought a new one yesterday - thats £70 spent for nothing)
The only thing left is the CPU ! Only it's a 754 socket so I'm limited to what I can get. I am going for a Athlon 64 3000+ 'Venice' I think. I mainly use the pc for gaming (well..flight simulator anyway)
I have seen an Athlon 3700+ Clawhammer with 1mb but it's almost £160 instead of £90 for a 3000+ Venice with 512mb.
I think £90 for the card & maybe £25 for another 512mb of ram would be a better buy. Regards
Steve G7RTA
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Response Number 3
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Name: jam
Date: February 26, 2006 at 09:38:29 Pacific
Subject: Which cpu..AMD64 '3200' or '3000' ? |
Reply: (edit)The Venice is the better choice, even though it has less L2. I just posted this info in the hardware forum: "The new Venice core, or E3 revision, is a bit different compared to the previous 90nm Winchester release, and offers not only a higher clock speed ceiling, but also an updated feature set and higher performance. The integrated memory controller has been given an overhaul, and it now includes support for mismatched DDR DIMMs and the population of all four sockets at DDR400 speeds. This last factor is important, because in previous core revisions, the Athlon 64 and 64 FX processors would drop down to DDR333 memory speeds with all four DIMM sockets populated with double-sided DIMMs, Overall memory performance has been also enhanced through improved memory mapping and lower memory latencies. The 90nm Venice core also has support for SSE3, an addition that brings it on par with the Pentium 4 Prescott models, and not that far behind the Intel cutting edge. AMD has planned their support of these Streaming SIMD Extensions, and as each new revision starts to gain speed in the developer community, AMD quickly adds support. SSE3 will provide some extra power for multimedia and media encoding duties..."
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Name: street1
Date: February 26, 2006 at 15:21:47 Pacific
Subject: Which cpu..AMD64 '3200' or '3000' ? |
Reply: (edit)Seems your problems started with USB not CPU. Do what sabertooth recommends first.Can't hurt.
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Name: Dragon306
Date: February 27, 2006 at 08:27:44 Pacific
Subject: Which cpu..AMD64 '3200' or '3000' ? |
Reply: (edit)you mean 512*kb* not mb and the 3000+ venice is a very nice CPU i would get that. they are good overclockers, too if you want to play around with overclocking Preform regular PC maintenance to keep your PC running like new. For suggestions on free security virus/spyware removal and optimizing utils and software, visit my web site.
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Name: Dragon306
Date: February 27, 2006 at 16:27:07 Pacific
Subject: Which cpu..AMD64 '3200' or '3000' ? |
Reply: (edit)but actually from what i hear your CPU probably has not actually failed jam and the others are right the A64s are difficult to fry or kill. just try saber's suggestion and if not then maybe RAM, PSU, other basic trouble-shooting things before assuming the CPU has died... Preform regular PC maintenance to keep your PC running like new. For suggestions on free security virus/spyware removal and optimizing utils and software, visit my web site.
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Response Number 9
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Name: Fennerman
Date: February 28, 2006 at 06:14:09 Pacific
Subject: Which cpu..AMD64 '3200' or '3000' ? |
Reply: (edit)Don't you have a warranty? My A64 has a 3 year warranty... and if it just "died", then I guess they should validate it. Free
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